Using bi-wire cable

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  1. John56

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    Hi All
    Can anyone kindly advise me on how to use the following (I.e. - there are 4 coloured wires - what wire/wires do I connect to where? Thanks!)
    Fisual Dualcon Bass Enhancement Bi-Wire Speaker Cable
     
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    Are you using them as a single ended option to your stereo amp and using all four connections on each speaker termination?

    If that's the case, use the outer two for the high and the inner two for the low of vise-versa, Also ensure that you look at which one's go to the red (+) and black (-) at both the speaker and amplifier end as it is very important to not to use black when it should be connected to red.

    So, if your using the outer two for high, then nominate one for red and the other for black, use the same nominated side for the inner low option and when you get to the amp, you know that one side is for red and the other is for black. repeat the process for the other speaker.

    Hope this helps.

    If you are still worried, simply select the banana plug options and choose x2 for the amplifier end and x4 for the speakers, then select the length and quantity. The guys at our end will do the rest for you.

    If your bi-amping - bi-wiring, its x4 for amp and speaker ends, then length and quantity.

    After that, you'll just need to plug them in and your done.

    Regards, Shane
     
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    Thanks Shane, very much appreciate your advice. I'm very much a novice at this but I think I understand what you're saying. I'll get my brother-in-law to help and hopefully everything will work out fine!
    Kind regards
    John
     
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    The DualCon Bass cable is a flat cable with four side-by-side wires. At least ONE of the wires is marked, that gives you an orientations on the cable as a whole.

    Fisual Dualcon Bass Enhancement Bi-Wire Speaker Cable - By Brand - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

    If you are going to put banana plugs on the ends, then those will be color coded. The logical orientation in my mind is one of two configurations -

    1.) Signal/Ground/Signal/Ground
    - or, speaking of the banana plugs - Red/Black/Red/Black.

    2.) Signal/Ground/Ground/Signal
    - or, again referring to the banana plug color - Red/Black/Black/Red.

    Even without colored banana plugs, even if just bare wire, the marking of one wire, and the position of the wires in the group should help you consistently wire them the same.

    Perhaps, you have mistaken the DualCon for some other Fisual wire, as you can see from the link I provided above, there are NOT 4 wire colors.

    However, there are 4-Wire Color Fisual Bi-Wire cable -

    Fisual S-Flex Studio Grade White Bi-Wire Speaker Cable 4 x 2.5mm - By Brand - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

    Generally Earth Colors are the signal ground (black, brown, green, ...), and the brighter colors are the actual Signal wires. You can pair them how you want, though in the example of the Fisual S-Flex, the first standard pair is Red/Black leaving Violet/Green for the second pair.

    The most important thing is that once you decide on what color does what, and what color pairs with what other color, from that point forward you have to be consistent in that.

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    Hi Steve
    Many thanks for your input. Having looked again at the cable more closely, you are quite right - the wires are not coloured, they merely appear to be.
    Kind regards
    John
     
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    Let's go back to a more basic question - Why are you using Bi-Wire Cable?

    Bi-Wiring itself really serves little to no purpose.

    I think most would suggest Single-Wire cable of adequate size, which typically means 14g or 2.5mm². I think these wires are capable of a 1800w or 2000w peak working power. And either can sustain 300w to 400w all day long. Are your amps more powerful than 300w/ch?

    If you are Bi-Amping, though your choice, I think most people would use TWO cables over a single Bi-Wire Cable.

    Also I doubt the "bass enhancement" quality of that DualCon wire. Wire can not add, it can only subtract, so if the cable has more bass, it is not because it has more bass, it is because it subtracted Mid/High.

    I think this is probably a far better choice in wire, and also a lot heavier wire.

    Fisual S-FLEX Studio Grade, Black, 2.5mm 99.99% OFC - £2.35/meter -


    Fisual S-Flex Studio Grade Black Speaker Cable 2 x 2.5mm - By Brand - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

    Also available in White.

    If you insist on Bi-Wire Cable, though most would recommend against it, then this -

    Fisual S-FLEX Studio Grade, Black, Bi-Wire 2.5mm 99.99% OFC - £4.20/meter -

    Fisual S-Flex Studio Grade Black Bi-Wire Speaker Cable 4 x 2.5mm - By Brand - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

    Also available in White.

    If you want something visual more unusual, this is worth considering -

    Fisual Super-Pearl - Black - 99.99% OFC 2.5mm² Speaker Wire - £1.50/meter (on sale) -

    Fisual Super Pearl 2.5mm Speaker Cable Black - By Brand - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

    Perhaps a bit stiff, but currently about 1/3rd off the regular price.

    So - Why Bi-Wire Cable??

    Steve/bluewizard
     
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    Hi Steve
    Many thanks for your continued input! As already mentioned, I am very much a novice when it comes to the technical aspects of audio equipment. I have purchased an AV receiver and Eltax III 150w shelf speakers simply to enhance the sound quality of my Samsung smart TV. The speakers are bi-wire speakers, hence the reason I purchased bi-wire cable. Going back to your earlier response and my subsequent reply, the bi-wire cable I purchased is indeed the one shown in the link you provided. Initially, I agreed with you that the individual wires in this cable were uncoloured, however, when I proceeded to strip the cables back in preparation for fitting the banana plugs, I found that the 4 wires making up the cable are in fact all individually coloured.
    Kind regards
    John
     
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