Upper mid-range LED TV buying decision (budget €2000)

rebum

Novice Member
I want to buy a 65" upper mid-range LED TV.

My buying criteria:
  • Strict budget of € 2000, availability in central europe
  • No OLED - the room is very well lit and there will be some direct sunlight in the evening (risk of image retention and possible damage)
  • Android is preferred (may be supplemented by a box, e.g. Mecool KM6 Deluxe)
  • Usage pattern: kids watching cartoons and series during the day, movie time in the evening
  • Good upscaling to 4k
  • Viewing angle will be 0-25 degrees
  • I want a 100hz panel, prefer VA because of contrast
  • At least one HDMI 2.1 input for the future
  • TV is going to be wall-mounted
  • A soundbar is not going to be used
My consideration so far:

Samsung QE65QN91A (€ 1899)
++ best brightness
++ best reviews
+ good sound
- no android, need a HDMI-connected Android box, users report problems with HDMI inputs on the 91A,92A,93A,94A,95A series

TCL 65C825 (€ 1799)
++ best sound

  • good reviews
  • good brightness
  • android
- no "major" brand

Sony XR-65X93J (X90J) (€ 1499, -20% off deals are starting to appear)
  • good brightness
  • android
  • price
- mediocre sound

Philips 65PUS9206 (€ 1539, -20% off deals are starting to appear)
  • good sound
  • android
  • price
- no local dimming

Any ideas, suggestions or recommendations to the stated models? Maybe other models I have not considered?

Edit 20.9.2021 02:56:
TCL 65C825 ruled out due to really bad viewing angles (personal check at a store)
 
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Goldorak

Distinguished Member
I want to buy a 65" upper mid-range LED TV.

My buying criteria:
  • Strict budget of € 2000, availability in central europe
  • No OLED - the room is very well lit and there will be some direct sunlight in the evening (risk of image retention and possible damage)
  • Android is preferred (may be supplemented by a box, e.g. Mecool KM6 Deluxe)
  • Usage pattern: kids watching cartoons and series during the day, movie time in the evening
  • Good upscaling to 4k
  • Viewing angle will be 0-25 degrees
  • I want a 100hz panel, prefer VA because of contrast
  • At least one HDMI 2.1 input for the future
  • TV is going to be wall-mounted
  • A soundbar is not going to be used
My consideration so far:

Samsung QE65QN91A (€ 1899)
++ best brightness
++ best reviews
+ good sound
- no android, need a HDMI-connected Android box, users report problems with HDMI inputs on the 91A,92A,93A,94A,95A series

TCL 65C825 (€ 1799)
++ best sound
  • good reviews
  • good brightness
  • android
- no "major" brand

Sony XR-65X93J (X90J) (€ 1499, -20% off deals are starting to appear)
  • good brightness
  • android
  • price
- mediocre sound

Philips 65PUS9206 (€ 1539, -20% off deals are starting to appear)
  • good sound
  • android
  • price
- no local dimming

Any ideas, suggestions or recommendations to the stated models? Maybe other models I have not considered?
Sony x90j for me for overall package
 

Goldorak

Distinguished Member
 

technomen

Well-known Member
Hi,
why not the Sony 65X95J we can find it at 2000 € ! ;)
Price abroad Sony X95J
idealo.es: from € 1,699.00
idealo.de: from € 1,779.00
idealo.at: from € 1,938.00
idealo.fr: from € 1,990.00
idealo.it: from € 2,685.09
or the more complete TCL 65C825 even if it does not have the image quality of major brands like Sony and Panasonic !
that's my opinion for you to see.
 

Goldorak

Distinguished Member
Hi,
why not the Sony 65X95J we can find it at 2000 € ! ;)
Price abroad Sony X95J
idealo.es: from € 1,699.00
idealo.de: from € 1,779.00
idealo.at: from € 1,938.00
idealo.fr: from € 1,990.00
idealo.it: from € 2,685.09
or the more complete TCL 65C825 even if it does not have the image quality of major brands like Sony and Panasonic !
that's my opinion for you to see.
Forgot this one indeed
Seems top of the range but hope anti reflective coating not reducing the native contrast
 

rebum

Novice Member
Yesterday I had the opportunity to take a look in-store at the TCL 65C825 and I am ruling it out. The viewing angles are really bad. Worse than the Sony.

There are new discounts and I can get two new models that fit my budget:
Philips 65PML9506/12 at €1759,20
Philips 65PML9636/12 at €1999,20

For the X95J it would be possible to order from Germany at €1938 + €39,90 delivery cost
 

jslv

Novice Member
VA panels will have narrow viewing angles if there's no extra filter applied. QN91A and X95J have an additional filter while X90J does not. On the other hand this filter lowers the native panel contract.
For 2000 you can get 75" X90J.
 

rebum

Novice Member
This is where my TV is going to be, quite bright environment with some direct sunlight in the late afternoon / evening. The back wall has a width of 2.54 meters, the wall mount is a Hama Fullmotion 118125 with a maximum load of 40kg. Viewing distance is about 3.3 meters, seating with a max angle about 20-22 degress to left and 20-22 degrees to right from the midpoint of the TV.

Yes, the XR-75X90J might get under €2000 as well but I might be happy with a 65" screen as well.

The X95J should be brighter than the X90J and have better antireflection, how does it do in real world?
 

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jslv

Novice Member
X95J handles reflections better and is brighter than X90J but 65" from 3.3 meters might be a bit small.
 

rebum

Novice Member
Thanks to all of you for the suggestions.

I have bought the Samsung QE65QN91A with a discount of 15% (€ 1614,15) and combined it with a Mecool KM6 Deluxe (€ 85).
 

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