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Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by Johnny Thunder, Dec 17, 2004.

  1. Johnny Thunder

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    Hello everyone. I would like some advice please.
    I currently have the following equipment:
    Yamaha DSP A5
    Cheap Yamaha Speakers(and cheap cables)
    Pioneer DV-656 A
    And an old Kenwood Hi-Fi put through the Yam amp.
    My wife hates my room and the fact that my widescreen tv is in the
    bay window. She wants me to get "one of them flat ones to go on
    the wall" :) .
    I am going to start by renewing amp, speakers and cable.
    My main priority is movies. But, I would like a system that can do
    real justice to music too.
    I am looking to spend about £1000 on an amp, and the same on
    the speakers.(I am prepared to bend a little on the price of the speakers)
    The amp I have in mind is the Denon AVR 3805.
    The speakers, Aegis Evo 3.
    I have just grabbed a few mags from the shops and read a review of
    Epos ELS3 5.1 Speakers, they sound nice, but I am not sure whether to
    trust all reviews.
    If these are poor choices, could you please put me right.
    Any suggestions on speaker cable is welcome, but bear in mind that the
    cable will be under floorboards.(not sure if that info is needed)
    Thanks for your help.
    Johnny.
     
  2. Johnny Thunder

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    :lease:
    OK guys,and girls.......
    Which amp and speakers would you all recommend.
    About a grand for an amp, and roughly the same for speakers.
    I may spend a little more on the speakers.
    thanks.
    Johnny.
     
  3. Dfour

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    The Yamaha 2500 is also worth looking at as you had the A5 so you must like the Yamaha sound. The newer yamaha's can do real justice to stereo music.
    The Denon 3805 is also a superb amp and worth demoing as well. The Pioneer AX5i/ai is also worth the demo.
    http://www.hifibitz.co.uk/product.asp?id=2057

    The AE evo series are superb speakers for movies and music. If richer sounds still have any left the Modraunt short THX series would be a perfect match for the Yamaha amp and with £500 off they are a bargain.
    http://ws2.richersounds.com/productlist.php?cda=productlist&sgroup=SPEAKERPACKAGES&sort=price
    and look in the discontinueed sectionn as only 3 sets left!!:eek:

    The Monitor audio bronze and silver series always get good recomendations on here and for more money the AE AELites are superb and look fantastic
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/AElite.htm
    The Missoin Volare sereis
    http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/moreinfo.cfm/Product_ID/2050
    Wharfedale evo packages
    http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/moreinfo.cfm/Product_ID/1562
    Keff 5005 series
    http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/moreinfo.cfm/Product_ID/1765

    Packages
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HCS_DEN3805_AELITE.htm
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HCS_YAM2500_AELITE.htm
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/3805evo3b.htm
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HCS_YAM2500_EVO3B.htm
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/AX5evo3b.htm
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HCS_DEN3805_KHT5005_90.htm
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/HCS_YAM2500_KHT5005.htm
    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/AX55005.htm

    There are many more on the pages to look at:devil:
     
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    Hi Johnny,
    I can't really help you much with the AV setup but I can give you a few pointers.
    Reviews are people's opinons. The only way to find what you want is to get yourself along to a shop or two and have a listen to some different combinations. Don't let anyone talk you into something your not sure of. You'll regret it!
    An AV amp will not be the best thing for music. Best to keep them seperate if you can. A few people use a second power amp (attached to the AV amp) to drive the front speakers for music.
    Don't waste your money on speaker cable, check out the Cables forum for some good ways of making your own. (I know this is not everyone's ideal but it can save you a fortune and give you much better results than 'proper' cable)
    £1000 on speakers gives you quite a choice. You will generally get more speaker for your money with a standmount than an equaly priced floorstander.

    A lot also depends on your room size and construction. Listening rooms in shops tend to be set up very well. Your living room may not be. Bear this in mind when you're listening to systems in shops.
    Once you've found something you like try and arrange a home demo just to be sure.
    HTH
     
  5. Tejstar

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    Sevenoaks are doing the Arcam AVr300 for £1040 in their xmas sale. Great value & especially good if you like your music :thumbsup:
     
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    Have a look at the Castle Compact set of five small speakers and a subwoofer which come in at £1,000 from this speaker manufacturer with a hifi heritage.

    The system is well reviewed by the magazines and a few forum members too.
     
  7. Johnny Thunder

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    Thanks for all the info guys.
     
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    Just one more quick question.
    Do you guys use your amp/receiver for audio only,
    or do you put your picture through it too??
    Does it reduce video quality by using the equipment
    that way?????
    Thanks guys.
    Johnny.
     
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    This really comes down to personal preference. There are many people here that run video through the amp as well as audio as it make like very easy. Others, like myself, run the video sources directly to the tv given that my tv can handle all of the sources.

    I believe that it does reduce quality although the effects are marginal, if you have loads of sources then running them through the amp will make like a lot easier for you when switching.
     
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    I think, from what I have read so far, I will be tempted to go for the
    Denon 3805.
    I am still undecided about Speakers. I get the feeling that this is the most
    important part of the selection process.
    Do any of you nice people currently use the Denon with the AElites
    mentioned earlier in this post.
    Could you also point me in the right direction to any reliable sources of independent reviews.
    Thank you.
    Johnny.
     
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    Johnny - There's quite a few reviews of the Denon 3805, they've won a countless number of awards from various publications. Just pop into your local newsagent and have a read.

    The Aelites have had good press from What Hi-Fi, giving the system 5 stars :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks Tejstar.
    I have read quite a few reviews of the Denon, so I am
    probably going to go for that.
    I have found one review of the AElites, which made them
    out to be very good speakers.
    Is This the best price I am likely to find, or
    will I do better buying all separately from a variety of suppliers.
    Thanks again.
    Johnny.
     
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    If you haven't got the cables (speaker & digital) you need for the home cinema, then the deal from Creative Audio is outstanding :thumbsup:

    If you have got the cable then just phone up CA and they should be able to knock a few hundred quid without the cable! If it were me I'd buy the package from CA, the cable is high-quality stuff and definitley worth it. Buy with confidence :smashin:
     
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    I have listened tot he aelites and they are superb, very powerful and dynamic. They need a good sized room to be able to breath and get the best out of them. The Creative audio deals are fantastic and I will be looking at them for my next upgrade (when I have some money and a bigger lounge) :D
     
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    I would like to thank you all very much for the excellent advice. :)
    Top Forum.......... :smashin:
     
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    Agree with Dfour, the Aelites definitley need space to be at their optimum. But you can't go wrong, they're great speakers :thumbsup:
     
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    No worries, let us know how you get on :smashin:
     

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