Question Upgrading my PC

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  1. dUnKle

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    I have a rather old yet serviceable PC which is in need of an upgrade ( its based around a Asus P8Z68-V LE Motherboard and i5 2500K Processor) and speed boost and have seen mention of late of these new AMD Ryzen processors

    So if I was to buy myself a Ryzen 3 2200 or a Ryzen 5 2400

    Could anyone advise the following please

    What motherboard would I need
    What CPU cooler (quiet one ideally) would I need

    Then in terms of slotting it into my existing case and adding the existing items I have such as hard drive etc

    My current graphics card is a GeForce GTX 770, as I understand it these new cpus are APUs as such would it be worth using my old existing graphics card or can I do without ?

    And I guess I need to know, would I need to buy new memory chips ? Or could I use my existing chips which are HYPERX SAVAGE RED 16GB (2X8GB) DDR3

    Oh and PSU, I assume it’s safe to keep my existing one ?
     
  2. Synchro

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    Did you build that PC yourself?
     
  3. dUnKle

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    Sort of, I suppose its like Triggers broom
    I purchased it years back as a pre built system and then have added to it and tweaked it as need arose, new memory, new PSU, new graphics card, various additional hard drives and a couple of SSD drives etc, even new case, in actual fact its dawned on me that a couple of years ago I actually had to change the motherboard as previous one broke but its still a Asus P8Z68 one

    Im tempted to order

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-YD2400...&qid=1520515084&sr=1-1&keywords=Ryzen+5+2400G and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Prime-B350-PLUS-S-ATA-Motherboard/dp/B06X9LN311

    As seems an ok price but would I see any benefit and would I need to buy anything else ?
     
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    You'll need new RAM, that mobo and I think all the Ryzen boards use DDR4

    In terms of cooling the Ryzen non x varients come with a pretty decent cooler the x one do not.
     
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    It depends on your needs for a pc, I was about to pull the trigger on a new build but the costs just didn't justify the upgrade for me. photo/video editing would be the sole reason for an upgrade. for gaming, unless your cpu is the bottleneck (which is unlikely) then I'd advise to look into it a bit more. The numbers never tell the whole story.

    I am currently running the same mobo as you with 2700k [email protected] 4.5ghz and 16gb ddr3 ram @1600Mhz. There are a lot of comparisons showing that FR is very similar with more modern cpu's/ram
     
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    Ah. Ok cheers so with ram I’d be looking at probably around 250 and likely not notice any real day to day improvements ?

    I’ve also been told that the motherboard are not fully compatible with the apus and a bios chip update is needed ?
     
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    Cheers.
    Just day to day use really but I’ll give the whole thing a format and fresh install and see how that goes.
     
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    I guess I was presuming that with my base spec being 5 years or so old I would get a fair jump by buying new
     
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    So was I believe me. The Sandybridge i5 and i7 k series were great processors. I remember investing quite a lot in this existing build but here I am 7 Years later with only a few upgrades along the way and I am still very happy :)

    I have investesd in an ssd drive, nvidia 1050ti gpu and a water cooler. After a fresh windows install (once a year generally) shes runs like new.
     
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    Guess I need to maybe look at overclocking maybe
     
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    Doubt it. If your PC is sluggish, its probably down to crap running in the background that you have acculamated over the years. A fresh install would rectify that. Even running stock, My 2700k knocks the socks off my work dell laptop (2016 and cant remember the specs) and my other halfs lenovo i3 (2016) in every aspect.

    You can run a standard overclock from the bios which will see gains but the i5 was known for silly oc speeds. 5ghz was the norm and stable for overclockers.

    Are you running with a ssd?
     
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    Yes have a 120gb sad for boot of windows 10 and a 256gb that’s used just for the odd couple of games I play
     
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    Well, you are looking at considerably cheaper processors. The current equivalent of your 2500k is the 8600k which costs around £240, so the 2200G is a third of the price.
     
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    Cheers. I’m gonna format and refresh tomorrow
    Much cheaper
     
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    Cheers. It’s actually a gigabyte motherboard I’m using now as the ASUS one packed up and needed to be replaced and this was the only cheap one I could find on eBay

    Gaming wise the only modern game I’m interested in playing is divinity 2 and that seems to run fine so maybe I don’t even need to overclock
     
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    Maybe if I can get screenshots of bios settings someone may be able to suggest any tweaks I can make there
     

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    'day to day use' is a bit vague. Could you pick out something in particular that feels slow? It's hard to troubleshoot without specific problems.
     

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