Upgrading from Sony Nex-7. Help needed

Orobas

Well-known Member
Hi Folks..

Not long made the switch from my old canon 450d (which i still have) to the sony mirrorless range... first to the nex-5 now to the nex-7.

I am looking to progress to a newer aps-c model that offers 4k video and a much better photo than the nex series can take for.. and this is the important bit..

I am a NON manual user.. i am strictly an auto shooter.. I can sort of ... use manual to a crude level.. but i am not even at a beginner level with manual settings...

I can handle manual on my samsung galaxy note 8 camera though no problems which is odd lol..

One of the main reasons for the switch is the overheating on my nex-7 and the lack of connectivity. I have a couple auto adapters for using my canon lenses (ef-s and ef-m) which i will be continuing to use and have a range of aps-c and full frame lenses

Do i look at the a5000 series... or go straight to the 6000 series.. I can't afford new.. and total budget i have is around £550 for this upgrade
 

goingoingong

Distinguished Member
Hi Folks..

Not long made the switch from my old canon 450d (which i still have) to the sony mirrorless range... first to the nex-5 now to the nex-7.

I am looking to progress to a newer aps-c model that offers 4k video and a much better photo than the nex series can take for.. and this is the important bit..

I am a NON manual user.. i am strictly an auto shooter.. I can sort of ... use manual to a crude level.. but i am not even at a beginner level with manual settings...

I can handle manual on my samsung galaxy note 8 camera though no problems which is odd lol..

One of the main reasons for the switch is the overheating on my nex-7 and the lack of connectivity. I have a couple auto adapters for using my canon lenses (ef-s and ef-m) which i will be continuing to use and have a range of aps-c and full frame lenses

Do i look at the a5000 series... or go straight to the 6000 series.. I can't afford new.. and total budget i have is around £550 for this upgrade
If you want 4K video you'll need a minimum of an a6100. The a5000 series according to the specs on the Sony website are 1080p video.

Completed ebay sales for used a6100 bodies show a price range of £470 to almost £600. New body £619 at Harrisons. They do trade ins so perhaps see if you can get anything for your Nex-7.

a6300 for £495 at wex USED Sony Alpha A6300 Digital Camera Body | Wex Photo Video
Or stretch your budget for a used a6500 at Parks for £669 Used Sony A6500 | Park Cameras
 
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Orobas

Well-known Member
If you want 4K video you'll need a minimum of an a6100. The a5000 series according to the specs on the Sony website are 1080p video.

Completed ebay sales for used a6100 bodies show a price range of £470 to almost £600. New body £619 at Harrisons. They do trade ins so perhaps see if you can get anything for your Nex-7.

a6300 for £495 at wex USED Sony Alpha A6300 Digital Camera Body | Wex Photo Video
Or stretch your budget for a used a6500 at Parks for £669 Used Sony A6500 | Park Cameras
Many thanks for the reply and much appreciated

Do you know if the 6300 suffers with the heat issues that plagued the NEX series?

Also.. given i am only an auto shooter (intelligent auto) .. will i be ok with this camera.. The NEX menu system left a lot to be desired... and confused the heck out of me lol


Any clean ups i currently do in Capture One... (please dont laugh lol... i cant use photoshop or gimp etc) .. WIll i be ok with the Capture One still


I've heard... the 4k sensors on the sony's are actually 6k downsampled to 4k? do you know if this is true or not
 

goingoingong

Distinguished Member
Many thanks for the reply and much appreciated

Do you know if the 6300 suffers with the heat issues that plagued the NEX series?

Also.. given i am only an auto shooter (intelligent auto) .. will i be ok with this camera.. The NEX menu system left a lot to be desired... and confused the heck out of me lol


Any clean ups i currently do in Capture One... (please dont laugh lol... i cant use photoshop or gimp etc) .. WIll i be ok with the Capture One still


I've heard... the 4k sensors on the sony's are actually 6k downsampled to 4k? do you know if this is true or not
Apparently it has heat issues with 4K video 13 Ways To Stop Your Sony A6300 Overheating!
This claims the a6500 is better for heat Sony a6500 vs. a6300 overheat test, looks like it's fixed - DIY Photography

a6300 has auto and program as well as the usual aperture priority, shutter priority and manual.

Yes for capture one Camera Support - Sony
That may be dependent on version though so you would need to check this further if you have an old version and can't update it.
 

Orobas

Well-known Member
Apparently it has heat issues with 4K video 13 Ways To Stop Your Sony A6300 Overheating!
This claims the a6500 is better for heat Sony a6500 vs. a6300 overheat test, looks like it's fixed - DIY Photography

a6300 has auto and program as well as the usual aperture priority, shutter priority and manual.

Yes for capture one Camera Support - Sony
That may be dependent on version though so you would need to check this further if you have an old version and can't update it.
Many thanks :)
yeah the 6500 and 6400 looks well out of budget sadly.... I'm well versed in pc building and working on macbook airs re tiny screws.. so the guide for the thermal pads and paste could come in very handy indeed...... and i also have a monster 10,000mA battery pack with heatsinks too.. ooooh!!!!!
 

goingoingong

Distinguished Member
Many thanks :)
yeah the 6500 and 6400 looks well out of budget sadly.... I'm well versed in pc building and working on macbook airs re tiny screws.. so the guide for the thermal pads and paste could come in very handy indeed...... and i also have a monster 10,000mA battery pack with heatsinks too.. ooooh!!!!!
The Park Cameras used a6500 is £100 over your budget. But if you got a trade in...

Ignoring the heat issue the a6100 is reviewed as better auto focus than the a6300 or a6500.

Sony calls its new AF system 'Real-time AF tracking' in its marketing materials. It's the best AF system we've ever used for focusing on people. Its cleverness is in how good it is at recognizing people and then reacting accordingly.

This capability, which isn't apparent by simply comparing the specifications, is the best thing about the a6100. It's also the reason we think it's a vastly better family camera than the a6000 or even the outgoing a6300 and a6500.

Sony a6100 review: Should this be your next family camera?
 

Orobas

Well-known Member
The Park Cameras used a6500 is £100 over your budget. But if you got a trade in...

Ignoring the heat issue the a6100 is reviewed as better auto focus than the a6300 or a6500.

Sony calls its new AF system 'Real-time AF tracking' in its marketing materials. It's the best AF system we've ever used for focusing on people. Its cleverness is in how good it is at recognizing people and then reacting accordingly.

This capability, which isn't apparent by simply comparing the specifications, is the best thing about the a6100. It's also the reason we think it's a vastly better family camera than the a6000 or even the outgoing a6300 and a6500.

Sony a6100 review: Should this be your next family camera?
I've sent in a part-x request to Park to see what my ageing Nex models will or wont fetch lol
 

wongataa

Well-known Member
I am a NON manual user.. i am strictly an auto shooter.. I can sort of ... use manual to a crude level.. but i am not even at a beginner level with manual settings...
Most people don't use manual mode most of the time.

I can use manual mode on my cameras just fine but most of the time I don't because it isn't necessary. I use the semi auto modes the most. I would only use manual if the situation requires me to use the same settings on a series of photos which does not happen often.
 

AMc

Distinguished Member
I use Program most of the time - I sometimes use specialist scene modes e.g. fireworks.
I only venture into A or S when I know exactly what I need - fixed fast or slow shutter for motorsports or wide open aperture for lots of bokeh.
I often force the ISO to it's lowest knowing what it will do to shutter and aperture and leave the camera in P.
IMO there are very few reasons you need to use manual mode - I completely understand people enjoy the challenge or have a specific thing in mind - but it doesn't magically make your pictures better and in many cases will make them worse than letting the camera make the same decisions but faster.

There's nothing wrong with Capture One either - it's the end result not the software.

I'd use Used Cameras and Lenses to hunt down prices on used models you're interested in.

MBP and CameraJungle will offer trade ins on used gear.
Unless you have a use for your NEX then you might as well trade it in while it still has some value.
 

Orobas

Well-known Member
I use Program most of the time - I sometimes use specialist scene modes e.g. fireworks.
I only venture into A or S when I know exactly what I need - fixed fast or slow shutter for motorsports or wide open aperture for lots of bokeh.
I often force the ISO to it's lowest knowing what it will do to shutter and aperture and leave the camera in P.
IMO there are very few reasons you need to use manual mode - I completely understand people enjoy the challenge or have a specific thing in mind - but it doesn't magically make your pictures better and in many cases will make them worse than letting the camera make the same decisions but faster.

There's nothing wrong with Capture One either - it's the end result not the software.

I'd use Used Cameras and Lenses to hunt down prices on used models you're interested in.

MBP and CameraJungle will offer trade ins on used gear.
Unless you have a use for your NEX then you might as well trade it in while it still has some value.
Many thanks for the reply and yeah.. i've done alot of business with MBP. I like their service and prices alot.
 

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