Question Upgrade to Marantz Amp+CD 5005 vs 6006

Heathy65

Standard Member
I have an old hi-fi setup which tbh has remained unused for quite a while (with the exception on my son pumping the Xbox one audio through it). It's a Kenwood SA-3020SE and a pair of wall mounted Misson 731LE speakers.

However, recently I've decided to start listening to records again so have just purchased an AT-LP3 turntable. Also, I have connected a Sonos ZP80 to the amplifier so I can listen to records elsewhere in the house (via Sonos) and also listen to Sonos services (like Spotify) in the lounge via the Kenwood/Misson setup.

So now I'm thinking it's time to get the CD collection back out of the loft. I know that may "sound" strange when I have Spotify but tbh I have a love/hate relationship with that service, IMO too much choice and not a very album centric experience, (must be my age!).

So I've been doing some research and have been considering getting a CD player and a new amplifier (I don't really want to replace the speakers).

Thoughts are as follows:

A) Marantz PM5005 + CD5005 (c. £335)

B) Marantz PM6006 UK + CD5005 (c. £500)

C) Marantz PM6006 UK + CD6006 UK (c. £680)

Based on what I currently have what's the thoughts on the improvement I'd get from now to A, A to B, B to C? I’ve no real idea how good (or bad!) what I have now is so can’t really gauge the improvement I’m going to get and thus how far to leap.

Any thoughts appreciated.
 

muljao

Well-known Member
B

You can use digital out from the cheaper cd player into the Amp DAC. The amp DAC is same as in cd6006 so sound is equal but cost is kess
 

Apollo83

Active Member
Option B for the reason Muljao said.

Also don't apologise for reverting to Vinyl & CD. You're not alone :)

There is something different in the experience of listening to a physical album vs the spotify experience.
Sound quality aside, there is the physical interaction when selecting and playing it and probably most importantly the enforced context for a song in the sequence it was selected by artist/producer.
Many songs on an album have grown on me over time that I would not have listened to twice on spotify...
 

Heathy65

Standard Member
Thanks both for your thoughts (also Apollo83, re. your comments, I completely agree re. albums).

Looking at individual pricing what about the PM5005 + CD6006 UK so using the "same" DAC but in the CD player, just a thought (a bit cheaper than the PM6006 UK + CD5005).
 

muljao

Well-known Member
Thanks both for your thoughts (also Apollo83, re. your comments, I completely agree re. albums).

Looking at individual pricing what about the PM5005 + CD6006 UK so using the "same" DAC but in the CD player, just a thought (a bit cheaper than the PM6006 UK + CD5005).
Obviously your choice but the better amp has more power also, and multiple DAC inputs for other sources. I'd pay a bit more and get the pm6006, even if it meant buying a cheap second hand cd player
 

BlueWizard

Distinguished Member
The PM5005/CD5005 are good quality, but the PM6006/CD6006 are better quality and you get digital inputs (DAC) on the Amp. However, the power is about the same.

So my bid is for the PM6006 and the CD6006 assuming you can afford it.

There are amps with more power, but perhaps not the same quality as the Marantz.

Yamana AS501, 85w/ch, DAC - £270 -

Yamaha AS501 Amplifier with DAC - Superfi

Yamaha CD-S300 CD Player (blk or sil) - £199 -

Yamaha CD-S300 Black CD Player - CD Players - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

Yamaha CD-S300 Silver CD Player - CD Players - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

Yamaha CD-N301 Network CD Player - £270 -

Yamaha CDN301 Networked CD Player - Superfi

Yamaha CD-N670 Network CD Player - £299 -

Yamaha CD-NT670D Networked CD Player with MusicCast - Superfi

The 301/670 CD Players have full Network Streaming Capability, though if you have SONOS you don't really need that aspect.

However, the general quality of the Marantz should be higher, but you get double the power with the Yamaha. That's worth something.

Is this your existing Kenwood Amp (Kenwood KA-3020SE, 45w/ch) -

Kenwood KA-3020SE - Hi-Fi Database - Amplifiers

Kenwood KA-3020SE Amplifier review, test, price

Steve/bluewizard
 
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Apollo83

Active Member
Go for the Amp. That way you can use the DAC for other sources like your Xbox, computer or a Chromecast Audio to listen to Spotify as well as Vinyl and CDs :)
 

gibbsy

Moderator
I can't comment on any of the Marantz amps but I do have the CD6006, although not the UK edition and it is very good indeed. It's certainly well built and silent in operation. Great headphone amp on the CD6006 and would assume the same for the amp.

Personally if you can get a good deal I would go with the 6006 option.
 

Heathy65

Standard Member
Is this your existing Kenwood Amp (Kenwood KA-3020SE, 45w/ch) -
Yes that's the one I have, looking at the specs in the instructions say 40W(8ohm)/60W(4ohm)

Thanks for your (and others) thoughts.

I have no plans to use any other inputs (so just turntable, CD player & Sonos ZP80), job done.
 

rorackowe

Active Member
It might be worth demoing the marantz amp against your amp with your speakers. Unless you really turn up the wick there may be little difference to hear. The 3020SE was a well judged product when released. It's probably a little long in the tooth now though (20+ years) so maybe nearly due an overhaul. If it still sounds decent you could spend the money on a higher end CD player or a DAC.
 

Don Dadda

Well-known Member
(I don't really want to replace the speakers).
Why not? Unless restrictions are in place, they can make the biggest improvement/difference.

What improvements, if any, are you looking for?
 

Heathy65

Standard Member
Firstly thanks for all the comments and suggestions, it’s really appreciated.

I thought I better loop back here and say what I decided/did.

In the end I went the eBay option and purchased the PM5005/CD5005 combination (separately). That ended up costing me £242 in total including P&P.

Have got to say that I’m very pleased with the sound. In fact when I started hearing detail in CD tracks I listened to the same via Spotify+Sonos and was surprised or the difference (even with my aged ears!). That even prompted me to see what bitrate Spotify uses and could see that you can change it if listening direct from iPhone but it seems (apparently) that when listening via Sonos it always uses the best. If that’s true then I’ll start to favour CD when at home. If anyone knows otherwise then let me know.
 

Cornish Dave

Active Member
If you are paying £9.99 to Spotify I think you are using their "best", if not I guess you aren't. On their site on my PC I was given the choice. Sometimes I thoink it is OK on others it sounds ropey to me.
 

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