Right I will apologise if I sound amateurish but here goes. Have had sky+ for couple of years and seriously thinking about upgrading to HD. When I switched to sky+ we had a nightmare with thomson Boxes and ended up with 3 boxes. Our third box is a Pace. It's nice and quiet (the thomson sounded like the space shuttle taking off!!) and have had no probs. I'm wary about going to HD in case of similar problems. I know you can't really choose the box but which one is best and which one do I try and avoid? Do you get the HDMI lead or do you have to provide your own? For existing customers is there an installation charge or is it free? How do I connect it to my home theatre kit to get 5.1? It's a Sony DAV-DZ230. It has scart,HDMI and co-ax output.