Hi Had the denon 2809 for a good few years and have really enjoyed it in that time, I'm running a 7.1 system and although I really enjoy the denon its getting a bit long in the tooth now and can't deal with 4K etc. I've always found the 2809 to be very accurate and neutral in sound character , but I wonder if the new denons have improved their sound, or indeed if a Yamaha would be a worthy upgrade , no just in features but in surround sound quality. I'm looking at either the new RXA870 but may be able to up my budget to the RXA1070. I had a Yamaha years ago and recently set one up for a friend and the Yamaha does sound more existing and lively . Any advice and recommendations welcome please. Looking quickly tonight and it seems the 1070 can be had for around £1000 at the moment.