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    It looks like my 60" LCD 4K has died :-(. In an ideal world I'd love to replace it with a 60-65" 4K HDR that's good for Sky and Gaming (PS4). I'll have about £1000 ish. Will this be possible???
    Thanks for any help.
     
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    You can't afford a TV that is HDR capable unless you drop to 49". At 65" the best you can get is the Hisense 65N6800 / Hisense 65M7000 which will give you more saturated colours with HDR engaged, but may look better with it off as they do not have other hardware needed to display it such as local dimming or high peak brightness.

    Still they are great value for their size.
     
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    Thanks for the advice. I'll have a look at the Hisense. Are there any 2016 models I might be able to afford? Thanks
     
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    The 65M7000 technically should be better with motion, its a 2016 model. You can't really compete with them for value...other manufacturers last years models if you could still find them to better the 65N6800 and be more on par with the 65M7000 would be Panasonic 65DX750/65DX802 but they are likely more expensive.
     
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    Thanks a lot
     
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    This year is a bit different from last, the 65M7000 this year ranks in between the 65N6800 and 65N8700. Looks like the NU8700 is £1800 now but I wouldn't be surprised to see that tv down to £1300 in spring next year.
     
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    I've found a LG 60UJ630v and
    Panasonic TX-58EX700B
    at good prices, would one of these be a good TV?
    I'm worried about response time in HDR gaming.
     
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    Do you mean input lag or response time?

    The Panasonic is similar in spec to the Hisense N6800. It has the same ups and downs.

    The LG uses a IPS type panel and should only be preferred if you need wide viewing angles.
     
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    Thanks. I think I mean input lag? It's the one needed for 4K gaming.
     
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    Most TVs now have very low input lag <50ms. The Hisense is around 32ms which is low enough unless you are sensitive/a twitch gamer and the Panasonic is 21ms which is about as low as you can get from a TV now.

    Its a bit of a problem though using HDR on TVs that accept the signal but don't have the hardware to display it. This is because they have to map the HDR brightness within their limits and it can end up with an overly dark image or if you turn up the contrast, crushed bright hightlights This is why I usually warn people that buying a TV that doesn't have the hardware to display HDR, you may find that HDR is better turned off as tone mapping higher nit masters to smaller brightness amounts is very hard.

    This isn't so much the case with content mastered to 1000 nits or below like many movies. But some movies and all games are mastered at 4000 nits and have very bright highlights and you will probably find you are having to turn the contrast up or brightness in the game when it does to compensate, as a result of this whites will also look washed out.

    There is more talk of it here.

    It is a shame because whist HDR consoles are relatively cheap, HDR displays are not. So therefore someone who buys a console and wants to play HDR games through it has to really pay at least £1800 (Sony 65XE9005) on a display that can at least get decently bright enough.
     

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