Under the Silver Lake Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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    2. True Romance

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      Thanks Cas, keep looking at this but the mixed reviews put me off. Might give a try now.
       
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      Do not waste your time its garbage. Listen to the mark kermode review on YouTube its hilarious.
       
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      Considered this one, but not on anywhere near me.
       
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      Draws on the work of a number of idiosyncratic directors (as mentioned in Cas' review) but meshes them together pretty well I thought. Bit of Mullholland Drive, bit of Punch Drunk Love, Chinatown, The Big Lebowski, etc.

      Definitely the sort of meandering and esoteric story that demands repeat viewings.

      I'm looking forward to seeing it again.
       
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      I saw it months ago and still love it. Lots to unpack thematically, and full of clues.
       
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      Honestly captures the peculiarities of LA (parts of it at least) pretty convincingly. You've been @lucasisking, did it convey the seediness and eccentricities of LA to you while you were watching it.

      As an aside LA is the only place I've been offered coke (not the beverage) and more whilst perusing Borders stock of British newspapers and magazines near Beverly Hills by some guy who stood behind me and whispered all sorts of temptations in my ear! More weird stories from that city but probably not appropriate for this forum. At the time I couldn't wait to leave but now I wish I'd stayed longer to see how much more bizarre it got. Edit -Stayed longer in LA not the bookstore! Also deviances rather than temptations is a better way of putting it. Nothing that maniac whispered in my ear was tempting!
       
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      Yeah I'd say its a spot on representation especially North Hollywood and some of the suburbs, lakes and hills. The apartment complexes all have this weird feeling of antiquity; not unlike Mediterranean resorts, but infused with a weird atmosphere that hints at all the stars that occupied it in times past. Mulholland Drive and Barton Fink had the same quality too. Couple of immediately recogniseable places in the film for me were the Last Bookstore (where Sam finds the comic), Griffith Park of course, and pretty sure that was Echo Lake where Sam rents a pedalo (unlike the titular Silver Lake, which I could see from the hills but never visited).

      Didn't realise you'd been as well @Stockholm. Although sounds like you may have had a more eventful experience there than I :cool:
       
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      If you have Mubi it's on for next 28 days.
       
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      One time in LA, some guy approached me and whispered if I wanted to "Cheese"! I'd never heard of this one before so I turned, looked at him, and asked, "Cheese?" He replied, a bit more emphatically, "Cheese!" I queried again, "What do you mean, "cheese"!?" He looked at me like I was the crazy, backed away a step, presumably for his own safety, said, "Cheese, man! Cheese!" Then he opened his jacket and there it was, a jumbo-sized catering pack of cheese! And when I said, "Right! You mean cheese!" he turned and fled! No matter how crazy crazy gets, LA can always top it.
       
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      Definitely the Marmite lover's Marmite movie, but I hope that David Robert Mitchell has now got it out of his system.
       
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      Done, I'm out.
       
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      Kinda enjoyed this film, wacky.
       
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      I struggled with this one. I loved It Follows, but I found this a slog to get through.
       
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      Right, so let's unpack

      Beware big spoilers aka my take on what the hell is going on (i.e. only for those who have seen it!)

      1. He's the dog killer (he lies about having a dog that 'died', he's found with dog treats and a shady alibi for them - talking strangely about how he could make everything good again by being nice to her dog, he got bit by a terrier as a kid and is afraid of them, he has dreams about killing and eating dogs, and looks a little crazy when he talks about 'thinking about' getting a new dog with Sarah at the end, and, of course, he spends a lot of time reading up on the 'dog killer' tales to see if they fit his modus).

      2. He is clearly struggling after a serious break-up, with his ex now super-successful (the girl who had the dog, who 'stopped loving him', and he's clearly - as above - desperate to 'fix' that so 'everything can be good again'), and his life teetering on oblivion. He expresses extreme hatred for 'the homeless' because they drift around like poltergeists/ghosts, watching everybody else drinking beer, and falling in love, and get jealous of it all. Yet he's about to become homeless, so is he largely describing himself, and perhaps his fears of what his life is going to be?

      3. He NEEDS to find a purpose in the mundane, fitting together clues and reading conspiracies into everything. Either this is real, or it is all just a big dream. When someone tries to shatter his illusions about what he relies upon (his trivia knowledge base), he bashes their head in. The trouble with this is that, if it's all a dream, then the majority of the movie is also just a dream. And, unlike Mulholland, that's hard to swallow. If it's real, however, the clues he has found are absolutely ludicrous (the NPM / chess / cereal clue is insane).

      4. Who was the piano man? A figment? If not, did none of the cult get perturbed by him having his head caved in?

      5. The conversation with Sarah highlights just how odd his quest is "I've been looking for you"; "Really, you hardly know me." and we seem to be told to accept that she's relatively resigned to her consensual decision to die underground whilst waiting to 'ascend'. When she says "There's no getting out now, so I might as well make the best of it", he replies "same here" whilst looking at the Hollywood sign.

      6. Is the entire conspiracy plot an allusion to him searching for meaning on the twisted streets of LA? None of it is even real (perhaps he's even leaving these hobo markings himself?) and, when reality finally crashes down (they evict him), he just 'moves in' with the neighbour, trying to embrace the fact that sometimes things don't *have* any meaning (what the bird is saying), that his ex is now just a sad clown (who isn't as blissfully happy as he assumed she was, so he can now move on). His very last look was that of a complete and utter psychopath.

      Please help me unpack, lol!
       
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      I will come back to you. I couldn't begin to give a definitive analysis, but I have several ideas and there are lots of clues seeded in the film, especially items in his apartment. There are also wider metaphors that may be at play concerning Weinstein and other Hollywood abuse scandals (my mate's theory).
       
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      In bold! I could be way off base though.
       
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      What was the frickin' parrot saying?
       
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