Hi peeps. I have 6 rooms to fit Living room a 4 circuit switch - porch, single wall light, 2 wall lights and main ceiling light b 2 circuit switch - upstairs landing and downstairs 2nd main ceiling Landing a 3 circuit switch - (dual switch with living room b switch) main landing, downstairs 2nd main, picture uplighter 3 bedrooms a 2 circuit switch - wall and ceiling Kitchen a 2 circuit switch - undercupboard/worktop light, 6 low voltage downlighters I am looking in retro fit into standard wall metal masonry boxes, single and twin. I have two switches that have dual switched circuits on them (downstairs main and Landing). I would like to have scene abilities. I dont have neutral at the switches and I cant get them there easily (just finished laying floors and plastering walls/ceiling, controllable lighting was an afterthought. I was looking at the UTLI range http://www.ulti.biz which seemed to cover most of my bases. apart from a twin 4 way or 3 way dimmer. The real question in all of this is 1. Are there any alternatives to suggest, I looked at rako but I dont think I can easily hide the dimmer modules, with the ULTI ones they are all built in. 2. Does anyone know where to get the installation/technical literature, i need to check sizes, compatibility with low voltage etc. Thanks for you interest and for your comments in advance.