My 2002 Lexus IS200 shows as ULEZ exempt, which is laughable when you consider how much juice it drinks and what its CO2 output must be (considering it's £340 a year to tax!!!)
People who don't want to arrive places all sweaty, or get squished on the way...
It is because it doesn't look at CO2 nor fuel consumption as they don't impact the quality of living in London itselfMy 2002 Lexus IS200 shows as ULEZ exempt, which is laughable when you consider how much juice it drinks and what its CO2 output must be (considering it's £340 a year to tax!!!)
Hey Ibsy, to put it simply, as Ive mentioned above, the TFL website and how they have gone about doing this is a shambles. Because of them, I sold my beloved Audi RS and am still crying about it! You can try emailed them, but TBH I really don't think it'll get you anywhere. It didn't help me at all!So I’m looking at golfs at the minute - auto trader lists this as ULEZ exempt however the TFL website lists it as chargeable :/
I was due to view it tomorrow now I’ve pulled out.
I am interested in this, I was looking for a car in August 2020, we live just outside what will be the new extension in October and I mean just outside, we are in Greenwich borough so I was of course checking all the cars I was looking at.
Anyway found a Renault Koleos 2009 2.0 dci and checked the reg on their website, it said it was fine, compliant with ULEZ and so I purchased it.
Luckily I had not driven in to central London as today I was listening to LBC and heard the adverts again about the new zone so sitting there just typed in the reg again only to now be told its not compliant !, so I have apparently blown £3k after checking the 'Official' website.
Now luckily I am a bit anal and I take screen shots of everything like that and have the screenshot telling me it was compliant back in August and TFL have confirmed nothing has changed in respect of the standards.
Now I am about to ask Mr Khan to either exclude my registration or refund me £3k and if I get no joy I fully intend to start legal action against TFL and indeed Mr Khan if I have to and take this to the press as clearly they cant just mess people around like this, if their is a rule, it has to be laid down so you can understand it and obey it and you cant do that if they simply change it without any notification, if they make a mistake, the minimum they need to do is inform any owners of any vehicles they have changed the status of or else in theory you need to check if your car is not brand new every time you want to enter London just in case and how many people would have stored the screenshot ?
This is totally mad.
Manufacturers don't make the rules so they cant be held responsible and indeed will likely just pass you on to TFL as if they give you information to sell a car they would possibly become partly liable, TFL make the rules so its up to them legally to supply the rules so you can adhere to them, its illegal to have a set of rules or terms that cant be interpreted i.e. they change without telling anyone.
They also have a mass of radio adverts telling you to go to THEIR website to check which I did back in August and it said it was complaint so I have done my side of the deal.
Its not like its a new car, they have had 10 years to decide if its ok or not and until at least last August you could legally drive it in London.
No court is going to agree you can change a set of rules without telling anyone, they have not changed the rules on emissions for ULEZ and its been going for some years now with my car apparently fully compliant now they decide to change it, something only they can do not the makers.
Mr Livingstone told me I could not sue him for my time and costs when he messed up on my congestion charge fines, apparently you could not sue them for their mistakes, funny but he paid up pretty quick when I sent the legal papers to him and the press.
Spot on here I think there’s 1/2 cars which are are 2013/14 that are EU6 Golf GTD MK7 and a 3 series. Although even those 2 cars I’d still proceed with caution.They haven't changed the rules. For diesel, it needs to be Euro6 from 2016 onwards, is your car Euro6 from 2016 onwards?
It will be a mistake. You can probably get away with using it for now but there no chance that car is EU6.Just checked our car which is 2001 Audi 1.9tdi and that is showing as exempt, so not sure the euro 6 make is always 100%, or I presume the card is euro 6. How do I check?
Best to check with manufacture / dealer and have it in writing. Usually it’s cars newer than 2015/2016 if you’re looking at diesels. With petrols even a 2001 can be fine I had a old 2001 Yaris which was exempt.So when buying a car it is not a good idea to check the ULEZ site then?
No doubt the same applies to diesels and Euro 6I spoke with a contact someone put me in touch with at TFL. I put the full scenario to them about cars which SHOULD by TFL standards be chargeable BUT are showing up on their vehicle checker as exempt and what would happen if I bought the car and at a later date TFL admitted an error and started to charge. They said TFL would be within their rights to move the goal posts as they please and advised me against buying anything that is NOT Euro 4.