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Tweaks on how to get "clearer" and more open dialogue?

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by MJeeves, Jan 12, 2005.

  1. MJeeves

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    Does anyone have any tweaks on how to get "clearer" and more open dialogue? Any adjustments I could make on my Pioneer AX5Ai?

    My centre speaker is a Proac Response CC One.

    Thanks.
     
  2. MJeeves

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    Anyone?
     
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    It's a difficult one, as your centre speaker is already very good. Apart from increasing the level of the centre channel slightly, there isn't much else one can do short of changing amplifiers to one that is known to do well with Dialogue, the Marantz SR8500 springs to mind.

    The other option would be to replace the centre with something larger, but you may risk the balance of the rest of your system.
     
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    A few people seem to be having this very problem (including myself). Initially I was cranking my centre speaker so high just so I could hear dialogue, but this ruins the soundstage. I also tried the midnight listening mode which while reasonably effective is not a long term solution.

    Out of interest, do you find it difficult to listen to speech in DTS or DD? I did some thorough testing on my speaker last night by playing some scenes from LotR: FotR. I swicthed from DTS and DD and found that, with the same volume on the amp, speech was a lot clearer and louder on DD than DTS.

    I think more fiddling is required!
     
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    For what it's worth, I've found the receiver to be the greatest determinant of clear dialogue. I had a Denon 3803 and the dialogue was always a bit 'muddy'. I upgraded to a Marantz SR9300 which in some ways lacked the 'slam' of the Denon but the dialogue was crystal clear.
     
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    My personal opinion on this is that people need to make a choice on what they want from a home cinema setup. Do they want the slam, or do they want better dialogue and handling of delicate scenes. There aren't many amps out there that can do both.

    Speaker choice is also important, and it is crucial to match to the right amp. I'm definitely more into the dialogue and delicate camp, and was willing to sacrifice some slam, hence the SR7400. The AX5 range is definitely more into the slam, tiz the choices we live by in the AV world.
     
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    I have always found that turning the bass up by about 2db on my centre always helps with dialogue.

    Just seems to give it more weight and authority when listening to dialogue in movies :thumbsup:

    By the way, I have a Denon 2805 driving a set of American Acoustic development E48's.

    Cheers,

    Cap :)
     
  9. MJeeves

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    Funnily enough I was gonna get some of this as I do get wax :laugh:

    Seriously, thanks guys for your help.

    I too tend to find that DTS is a bigger culprit than DD with dialogue intelligability (take "Collateral" for instance!).

    I will try putting my centre speaker on a better stand and gently increasing the gain of the centre channel (only by a fraction as I don't want to ruin my soundstage - which is pretty good).

    Thanks for your help and any other suggestions - please let me know.

    Ta. :thumbsup:
     
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    It might also be worth trying to play with the crossover settings, reducing the output below say 100Hz might yield some improvement.
     
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    I have mine set at 50Hz. Do you think it might help to make my back wall less "reflective" by putting some softer wall coverings up i.e. small curtains or something? Maybe it's my room that's causing the problem. Any thoughts?
     
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    You could also try changing the position/angle of the centre speaker towards the listening area. :)
     
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    Unfortunately it has been so long since I did acoustics I am probably not able to offer a suggestion.

    What I had in mind by reducing the output of the speaker was to make the speakers life easier by attenuating the bass.
     
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    :laugh:
     
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    That's something I haven't tried yet. I've got the speaker below the plasma but may prop it up on something and angle it slightly upwards. Thanks for the advice!
     
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    Wow that's a cool website. Have you tried it, does it work?
     
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    Many Yamaha receiver users claim that using the Presence speakers, together with the Dialogue Lift function, makes dialogue much easier to understand.
     

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