TW7300 3D & dust blob questions

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  1. justin8571

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    Hello everyone,

    I'm thinking of buying my first ever projector and am now heading way out of my initial budget, and thinking along the lines of a TW7300 (initially considered the TW5350). I've had a good read of the owners' thread and get mixed reviews regarding the projector's 3D capabilities. I appreciate it's not everyone's cup of tea but I like 3D and have a number of 3D blurays, and want a projector that can do them justice.

    I currently have a 64" plasma TV and the 3D on that is great with no crosstalk, and I know how bad 3D can look when the crosstalk is apparent as I had to return a TV because of it. I really don't want to spend what to me is a fortune and end up regretting it. I have some Samsung active 3D glasses that I'm assuming will work with the 7300.


    So, what are people now thinking please with regards to the 7300's 3D performance?

    Is there a one size fits all setting that appears to work well?

    Have recent firmware updates improved matters?

    Are the problems too big for a firmware update alone?


    Also, I keep reading about Epson's being prone to dust blobs and I gather the optics on the 7300 aren't sealed, so I'm assuming the 7300 is likely to suffer from this issue. Any views on that please would be interesting as I have no experience myself.

    I think that's about it for now so thanks for taking the time to read my post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you

    Justin
     
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    Have a look over on avsforums where some owners have experienced dust on the 7300 or 5040 (USA model)
     
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    Search dust and you'll find it
     
  5. justin8571

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    Thanks for that, I didn't realise there was a version in the US with a different model number. I noticed that for some reason the US version has a brighter lumens bulb.

    So, dust blobs still appear to be an issue although I've not been able to find any complaints on it so far in this forum. I guess the units are still quite new so maybe the issue will be more apparent in the coming months/years.

    Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

    Justin
     
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    I've been trying to figure out what the US version is. The 5040 seems to have more brightness and a much larger contrast ratio of 1,000,000:1 compared to our UK 7300's version of 160,000:1


    Congrats on deciding to buy a projector, you wont regret it. But since its your first projector, are you sure you want to go so far over your budget. I remember when I got my first 'budget' projector for around £700 5 years ago it totally blew me away. My jaw dropped! And with these 'budget' projectors at this price point you'll find them to be mainly single bulb DLP projector's which are outstanding for 3d. Better 3D than some £3000+ projectors with no crosstalk

    Just some food for thought....
     
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    The US equivalent of our 7300 is the 4040 model, the 5040 is the same as the 9300 here.
     
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    The potential for dust blobs is always there with most lcd pjs, after around 1000 if you zoom in to the panels at a certain range on a small throw, say a foot from the lens youd be shocked at how many multi coloured specs you see, but you probably arent even aware the panels have any dust on them during normal viewing.
     
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    I am also in this frame of mind.
    I want good 3d but I also have a few UHD discs that I want to watch in HDR, so not sure which to go for.
     
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    Just to add to my post about dust, its the green panel in particular that shows the dust up as a blob more than the red and blue. Thing is, after a few years you may see the odd blob on a completely blank screen, but not detect it at all on normal viewing.
    Best thing to do is just enjoy your pj.
     
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    Keep cleaning your filter and vacuum room projector is in regularly, dont allow excess dust in if you can..ie: open doors while cleaning rest of house,or mowing lawn and you'll be doing everything you can to minimise risks of dust blobs..ive been ok all these years with my panny 2000..basically just take good care of projector and the environment its in and i wouldn't let fear of dust blobs put you off what seems to be an amazing piece of kit
     
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    Thanks to you all for your advice, much appreciated. Really not sure what to do and I think I may have to visit a dealer to get an idea of what's right for me within my budget and whether I really do need to stretch myself to the 7300. What Hi-Fi gave a great review of the TW5350 and I'm sure if I see it that would probably be more than good enough.

    I live near Eastbourne, East Sussex and from what I can see I think my nearest specialist is Richer Sounds in Brighton or Tunbridge Wells.

    My next conundrum will be screen size. I'd like to go as big as possible to get the maximum effect but I keep reading you shouldn't sit too close. I'm aiming for a 120" screen and sitting about 3.5m (11'6") from the screen. I appreciate that's close for that size screen but I've read that others do the same and enjoy the experience. I'm just wondering if I'll end up seeing individual pixels at that distance. And to make matters worse, as the projector will replace our TV, I'm not sure how my missus will adjust to it, especially for TV viewing, as she's a touch more practical than me and is unlikely to be quite so enthusiastic about it. I just don't want to end up wishing I'd gone for a bigger screen if I do go smaller than 120. I guess it would be handy if a projector could switch between display sizes so we could change it to smaller when watching TV.

    Thanks again to you all for your help and I'll update with whatever decision I finally come to, I'm just hoping I really like the 5350 and that it's ok at 3D.

    Justin
     
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    Hold your horses there young man! I'd not recommend using a pj to replace a standard TV. Bulbs will need replacing every 2000-3000 hrs. PJ's don't like being turned on and off in short bursts and each on/off will effect bulb life. What will you do during the summer when you need the room in darkness to watch TV? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying don't get a pj just get a normal TV for day to day viewing and keep the pj for films, sporting events and so on.
     
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    Noooooooooo!!!!!! You can't say that, you can't end my dream before it's been realised!!!!!

    I was dreading someone saying that but had the impression what with brighter bulbs these days that projectors are able to cope with a bit of ambient light for daytime use.

    We've only got the one living room that it can go in to, and the room's not very big so I was thinking I'd have to just remove the tv and replace it with a screen. I was under the impression that more people are beginning to use projectors these days for watching tv as well as films.

    As for turning it on and off frequently, we tend only to use the living room once the kids are in bed, and then it'll usually be on for maybe three or so hours at a time.

    I was thinking of a fixed screen against the wall but maybe something I could lower just in front of the tv would be a better option?

    Thanks for the advice by the way as I do need to make the right decision and I appreciate your help, it's just that that wasn't what I was hoping to hear!!!!

    Justin
     
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    My advice to another member yesterday.........
    Id never replace a tv with a pj alone myself. Even with the brighter models daylight will wreak havoc with the image and i like the wow factor of using the pj just for a few movies a week.
    Up to you of course but we use a tv for regular viewing and the odd movie during the week.
    Projectors really are suited best to a dark room, be that a ideal bat cave or at night with all the lights off.
     
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    Thats would be the best option mate..as others have quite rightly said,a projector in summer time during daylight wont be ideal or give you best results..
     
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    Sorry :(

    But better know now and plan accordingly ;)
     
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    No TV in our room. There's one in the bedroom, usually on for a bit of news before getting out of bed.

    The living room can be made almost completely dark even during a summer afternoon, so the projector is used for all TV duties. Having said that, it is dark winter evenings when we watch the most TV. In Eco mode the Epson lamps claim up to 5000 hours so not like my old Sony...

    A TV would actually work, but there's nowhere to put one.
     
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    Or go for a laser projector like the Epson ls10000 that has a laser life of 30000 hours. .no bulb. .8 hrs a day will last you 10 years.
     
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    Wouldn't be great in a typical living room though......which is probably why the owner of one (above) didn't suggest it either.

    Edit: maybe with an appropriate screen?
     
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    Yeah true
     
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    Laser or bulb system wouldnt really change the situation.
     
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    Just out of curiosity I googled the lamp serial for a 9300 and it shows up around £300 odd.
     
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    Ill double check, where did you get that figure from mate?
     
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    Think ive made a mistake there, had a quick look the other day and thought id found a genuine supplier , going to edit my post so as not to confuse anyone.
     
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    I only saw it at one place with a quick search mate, I may have got it wrong myself!. To be honest I only looked as I read somewhere that said the Epson lamps were cheaper than Sony and I knew a Sony lamp was about £200.

    This was the link,

    Epson ELPLP89 Projector Lamp | Epson EH-TW9300W Projector Lamp
     
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    Tw7300 is 4040ub
    Tw8300 is 5040ub
    Tw9300 is 6040ub
     
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    Ive Never heard of the 8300?
     
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    I thought the 5040 is the same as the 6040 (both 9300 here in the uk)but the 6040 just comes with a mount and extra lamp and extended warranty in the states?
    Oh and its black.
     
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    Not offered in UK, but existing on Australia market.
    Google it.
    We have lowest and highest model.
    Americans have all 3 models.
    5040 and 6040, 8300 and 9300 prity much same, but must be differents if Epson named them differently.
     
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