Here are a couple of piccys I took, one with xcard via PDI into Holo3dgraph-II and out via Rad 7500 (still awaiting aux card drivers) and the other using TT with the same Rad 7500. The Xcard picture is the one with the PAUSE on screen. They have both lost a fair amount whilst downsizing but still give a valid comparison I think. I know which I prefer but I'd be interested In hearing anyone else's opinion or tweaking advice XCARD Theatertek Cheers. John.