Trevor McDonald cleared of racist joke.

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  1. avinitski

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    I actually came across this news story by accident, is it just me that thinks what he said was out of order, it doesnt matter if he said "black" or "white" i would actually be offended if i heard either, this story seems to have gone mostly unnoticed on other news providers, part of me does think if the roles were reversed there would be uproar! Hell even when a Big Brother contestant said the N word that was major headline news! So why isnt this? If it was meant to be a joke where is the punchline?

    And can i just say i am not a fan of the comedian in question.

    clickety click
     
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    What he said was clearly a parody of Manning, and a pretty accurate description in my view. A load of fuss about nothing, by over-sensitive people.

    The item about ITV at the bottom of that article did make me smile though.
     
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    doesnt matter if it was a parody or not, it was a racist thing to say, what would people have said if trevor had died and bernard would have said "well to me he was just a b:censored:k b:censored:d newsreader"?
    bernard would be condemed for it.

    its just another case of racism.
     
  4. avinitski

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    thats what i meant to put in my original post, people would be calling for his head if Manning said that on ITV at 10PM. Can i just say again i really disliked Manning so i am not a fanboy of his.....(fanboy?!? can i say that?...i guess so) lol
     
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    Agreed, parody or not, it was racist and insensitive.
     
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    Why did you feel the need to stick a :censored: in the middle of the word black :confused:
     
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    Manning was a racist.... somebody called him a "white bastard"....

    big deal
     
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    Of course, and he made a living out of exactly that kind of 'humour' for years. Which is exactly why the parody was, in my view, entirely appropriate.

    This seems to be another example of correctness that is out of control.
     
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    Because your not allowed to say that word. :D
     
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    Somehow I don't think Bernard Manning would have been offended.
     
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    the way the world is today im suprised im allowed to say hello. :D
     
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    maybe so, but like on big brother when someone said the 'N' word, it was said in the style that gangsta's speak but because of the word she was condemed for it so why isnt trevor hauled over the coals for it?
     
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    I would say that the N word is a much more emotionally charged word given its history. Black or white can be merely objectively descriptive.
     
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    Because only white people are able to be racist. :rolleyes: Also, didn't you know that only heterosexual people can discriminate based on sexual preference, and only men can be sexist?

    Black artists can use the 'n' word all they like. But a white girl using it humorously in a conversation with a black girl who was NOT offended gets thrown off a reality show.

    A white, heterosexual make using the word shirtlifter gets thrown off another reality show. The condemnation of Jim Davidson on the radio this morning was beyond belief. A lot of people on Radio 5 were saying that it was OK for gay people to call each other shirtlifter, but because of who he is it was unacceptable for Jim to do it? :confused:

    It is a crazy world where minority groups bemoan discrimination whilst defending their own right to use the very same language.
     
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    I remember the days when you could use the adjectives "black" or "white", but to broadcast the word "bastard" would provoke an outcry.

    Times were simpler then.:rolleyes:
     
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    It was said by a black person,therefore it was racist!.
    He should of been sacked.
    If a white news reader called someone a black bastard they would have lost their job in a flash,parody or not.
     
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    I remember being taken to task in the US for using the term "brother". This was condemned as yet another instance of white appropriation and co-opting of black culture and parlance. It didn't seem to matter that the person I had been addressing at the time happened to really be my brother.:rolleyes:
     
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    :rotfl: :rotfl: I'd take that seriously if you weren't such a Bernard Manning fan ;)
    - have just been flicking through the last Bernard Manning thread ... you know the one where you sang his praises and had a go at others ('limp wristed PC types') for brandiing him a racist (www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4995346) :rolleyes:
     
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    I wish we were all more tolerant, did not take offence so easily & tried to see things from the other persons perspective. Please.
     
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    quality:rotfl:
     
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    Regardless of whether you like Bernard Maning or not (I do not, due to his offensive comments about my ethnicity), that was a racist remark, calling someone a ba$$$$ed may be fine, but putting the colour of their skin in front is clearly racist.
     
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    Hi and thanks for yor post!
    I never recall Bernard Manning calling someone a black bastard on national tv.
    What Trevor said was over stepping the line.
     
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    Typically, once again, the real victims are forgotten. Oh yeah, give him a hard time about calling someone a white bastard, but leave out the fact that he called him a FAT white bastard. It's time someone spoke up for this ever-expanding minority.
     
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    Anyone who chooses to use any language should be aware of the sensitivities to it, and offence that may be taken. So she actually got thrown out of Big Brother for being a cretin.

    Most people are aware of these sensitivities, and use such language with the clear intention of causing offence, or not caring whether that is the effect. In terms of racism I do not believe there is any such expectation from the term 'white bastard' (fat or otherwise).
     
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    i dont see his comments as a problem, he clearly ment it as a joke to parody someone out of respect.

    clarkson is able to discriminate about peoples sexuality/colour/religion/travel preferences and he's not dragged over the coals

    good job too as i find his humour funny and would rather take a gun to my head than lose that kind of humour in my life
     
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    Yes, but from what I understand is that Mannings jokes were often racist (not like PROPER racist, but joking racist). So in this case sir trev was clearly doing a parody of Manning.
     
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    Haha. Good one Trevor!

    At the end of day, he was fat and white.
     
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    Anyone that derided Bernard Manning's jokes for being racist,yet laughed or supported Trevor McDonald's comment is a hypocrit <full stop>

    Personally I could care less about either persons comments - as I seperate all humor from real people and am prepared to laugh is something is funny, regardless of it being offencive or not.
    I just find it funny when people come out of the wood work to pronouce themselves in with the self righteous crowd, basking in their own holyness, yet are happy to join in when the target is seen as fair game.

    It's ironic that they say they are defending peoples rights and standing up for humanity, yet seem to take a perverse sense of pleasure in deriding and persecuting those that don't follow their rules.

    You aren't as good and nice as we are - so we are going to hound you till you die ! ( they never seem to be aware of this ...... )
     
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    Only if that person considers both comments to be racist in the first place. I don't consider Trevor McDonald's comment to be racist in any meaningful way, for exactly the same reason I don't believe that 'baa baa black sheep' is a racist nursery rhyme.
     

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