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Toshiba To Support RGB In!

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by Rasczak, Nov 5, 2003.

  1. Rasczak

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    What Video & Widescreen TV report that the next DVD recorder from Toshiba - model D-R1 - will have the crucial RGB input lacking from the RD-XS30. It will also sport iLink and component video outputs for PAL progressive! It will be a multi-format recorder: DVD-RAM, DVD-RW (Video Mode) and DVD-R. RRP will be around £400 which will put it at the same price range as the E60 and JVC DRM1.

    Also on the way is a HDD/DVD-R unit from LG - model RH4810 (no other details yet) - and a DVDR75 clone from Humax.

    The issue also has reviews of the Sony GX3 and DVDR80 for those interested in the machines.
     
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    The Tosh recorder, which looks superb, is available for £312 from unbeatable. Look here for more.
    Russell
     
  3. Rasczak

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    That's a very good price for an iLink equipped player - especially given it's component connection option as well.
     
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    Yeah. The Tosh looks to be the pick of the current recorders. I was going to get a Panny E50, but the RAM only re-writeable media put me off and the new Pioneer 3100 is too expensive.
    Tosh seem to be continuing their good track record from their VHS lineup, ie very good, and I can't wait to get my hands on one for xmas.

    Russell
     
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    Hopefully the RGB in will hold true for Toshiba's next HDD/DVDR combo as well. If Toshiba can offer the same features as on their latest Japanese models (i.e. USB for connection to a PC and online TV Guide for automated recording) as well as component output (hopefully not at the expense of RGB in like on the Sony models) then they will have a winning model on their hands!
     
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    No doubt Pioneer's next gen models will also support RGB in.

    They did this with their early DVD players like 717 !

    Surely this is a deliberate (annoying!) ploy, simply designed to get people to upgrade :mad:
     
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    Quite.

    I was surprised they didn't add it in this time. After all Panasonic released the E20 without RGB in and corrected this with their second generation. The Pioneer models are that companies second UK generation and still don't have it - still with the Toshiba and Sony offerings there are now plenty of DVD-RW RGB in offerings.
     
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    Why does the Ram only media put you off? it's a great recording medium. I can't understand this compatability issue. I would never dream of either lending my recordings to someone else, or play anyone else's recording on my equipment - to risky. I know how I care for my discs and recorder, which is a claim I cannot make for others, nor do I know how they would handle any recordings of mine. You could do a lot worse than buy the E50. I bought the E30 a year ago now and it's one of the best decisions I've made in the AV market.
     
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    agree that RAM is a fantastic recording standard and I am not criticising RAM as a recording standard. Certainly RAM would appear to be a lot better than +RW.


    In what way is lending or playing recordings "risky"? Surely you trust yourself and your friends to handle recordings with care?

    Using those RAM recordings on other machines is a problem. There are two DVD players in our home and sometimes recordings will require playback on that other player. Since RAM is not widely accepted by DVD players, the -RW feature on the Tosh is a welcome addition (the other player will accept -RW). I sometimes lend recordings to friends at work, too:

    "did you see that thing about Einstein and space the other day?"
    "No, I missed it - forgot it was on!"
    "Well I have it recorded. Just go out, buy a cheap RAM compatible Panasonic DVD player (only a hundred quid) and you too can see it."

    Some other minor points putting me off the E50 are:
    1) It has an optical out only and I would prefer Coax. This isn't because of differences in sound quality between Optical and Coax; there aren't any. But rather a very long Optical lead would need to be bought, and I don't want to spend the money.
    2) No Component output.
    3) The remote looks like a pain to use. Now, I haven’t used an E50, so I could be wrong, but the remote does look a bit poor. Not as bad as the Pioneer, though.

    Russell
     
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    I have found the specification for the model DR-1 on the Toshiba website and only one of the SCARTS appears to be RGB. It doesn not state whether it is in or out.

    Anyone else managed to find more information on this model ?
     
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    I think your looking at the European model (no UK specified one yet posted). It's the same model Toshiba displayed at Manchester and only had S-Video in but WVWE clearly state the UK version has RGB input in no uncertain terms.
     
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    On what page of the mag is this info on because i can not find it in the november issue.
     
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    November issue!?! Don't you subscribe man! The December issue (of What Video & Widescreen Entertainment) is out now and the information you wish to read is on page 8.
     
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    i see well i only just got the november issue from smiths will have to get up to date me thinks.
     
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    One thing the magazine mentions (which i didn't) about the Toshiba is that is has THREE audio recording options; M1 and M2 for Dolby Digital or LPCM (the Panny range only have AC3 or LPCM). Doesn't say if the latter is only for XP recordings though (as on the E60/HS2).
     
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    Look at what the What Video magazine reviews say time and time again about panny remotes. If only all manufacturers made remotes as user friendly as this - or words very similar to this.
     
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    I am sorry to report that the Toshiba DR-1 does NOT have RGB in.
    I have actually tested one for half a day. It has RGB out but not in.
     
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    I am sorry to report that the Toshiba DR-1 does NOT have RGB in.
    I have actually tested one for half a day. It has RGB out but not in.
     
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    Looks like I am back onto the E50, then?

    Russell
     
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    I can confirm that the Tosh DR-1 does not support RGB in. I have just recieved the latest Tosh catalogue and it only supports RGB out and S-vid/comp in/out.

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    What Video got it wrong then. A shame.
     
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    Better get a Philips machine then!
     
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    Another one bites the dust...

    That was looking hopefull for a wee while...

    What is wrong with these companies? You've got Pioneer, Toshiba and JVC doing progressive scan but no RGB in and Panasonic, Philips and Sony doing RGB in and no progressive scan. :rotfl:

    The former is the most stupid as you only need to provide progressive scan for those with large screens which also need the best quality input...:suicide:
     
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    Sounds like a good recorder to go with my projector, but who sells it as multi-region?
    Shame about s-video in only on scart 2.
     
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    I agree it's stupid not having RGB in on a DVD recorder, but can I ask why don't Sky and Freeview boxes have two RGB out scarts (one for TV and another for recorder)!?

    I use the TV RGB scart out from my Sky box through a JS Tech RGB2SVIDEO v2 converter and then feed the s-video into my E30. I'd love to use RGB, but I need the RGB output to feed my Plasma. I know I could "loop through" the E30, but the E30 causes a terrible sync delay when watching "live" video "through" it and also this arrangement would mean I couldn't watch Sky whilst recording something else on the E30 (from another source).

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    Because VCRs cannot record in RGB. And as DVD recorders are still in the minority (and the Sky digibox specifications were set years ago) there is no requirement for a RGB output to the VCR. Hopefully things will change (especially with Freeview boxes) but I wouldn't hold your breathe!
     

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