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luke_1983uk
Established Member
i would like to know that question too,
i have a sd350e on order should be here by tommorow, so when i find out i will let you know, i do like the look of the tosh though. the dvd player has gone into short supply so i did have trouble getting hold of it, had it on order for 2 weeks now!
i have a sd350e on order should be here by tommorow, so when i find out i will let you know, i do like the look of the tosh though. the dvd player has gone into short supply so i did have trouble getting hold of it, had it on order for 2 weeks now!
TankTopLover
Prominent Member
I had the tosh and it was good,but i now have the pio 575 and it is just better in all areas IMO.
Hi
I have just spent the last few days looking at a couple of players as Ive been on the sick. I had a phillips 720, Pioneer 575 and a Tosh sd150. This is the second 575 I have owned and due to the superb feedback on them I decided to get another. The first time I had one, I sold it and since have regretted not spending even more time trying different picture options. This time I've sat with these players till I am goggle eyed. I can only say yet again Im not that impressed with the Pioneer. Maybe Im mad, or maybe they dont suit my 36" Tosh crt - who knows. I thought it was good but no better than my phillips for picture and not quite as good as the tosh.
The picture modes on the Pio are great but I find if you set detail to fine and you look close you get a ringing on images. If BNR is used it removes a fair amount of detail noticeable on skin and so on. Pores just dissappear especially when watching moving faces the detail waxes and waynes as the BNR does its stuff. The tosh for all its poor user friendliness and bulid quality handles movement very nicely and has stacks of detail. Ive even had my girlfriend watching dvd essentials for the last few days to make sure im not imagining it. Both the pio and phillips produce slight jagged lines on one of the test cards which the tosh doesn't. Its only my opinon and I respect everyone elses as there isn't much in it. I use a Tosh pf3 36" , monster thx component leads that weigh a ton and a yam rxv650 coupled to an ms309 and mission ms3's. I admire magazine staff who can just connect a player up and write a review as I find it very time consuming. I know I will get a million people posting that I must be wrong but I gave it a good shot.
Best regards
I have just spent the last few days looking at a couple of players as Ive been on the sick. I had a phillips 720, Pioneer 575 and a Tosh sd150. This is the second 575 I have owned and due to the superb feedback on them I decided to get another. The first time I had one, I sold it and since have regretted not spending even more time trying different picture options. This time I've sat with these players till I am goggle eyed. I can only say yet again Im not that impressed with the Pioneer. Maybe Im mad, or maybe they dont suit my 36" Tosh crt - who knows. I thought it was good but no better than my phillips for picture and not quite as good as the tosh.
The picture modes on the Pio are great but I find if you set detail to fine and you look close you get a ringing on images. If BNR is used it removes a fair amount of detail noticeable on skin and so on. Pores just dissappear especially when watching moving faces the detail waxes and waynes as the BNR does its stuff. The tosh for all its poor user friendliness and bulid quality handles movement very nicely and has stacks of detail. Ive even had my girlfriend watching dvd essentials for the last few days to make sure im not imagining it. Both the pio and phillips produce slight jagged lines on one of the test cards which the tosh doesn't. Its only my opinon and I respect everyone elses as there isn't much in it. I use a Tosh pf3 36" , monster thx component leads that weigh a ton and a yam rxv650 coupled to an ms309 and mission ms3's. I admire magazine staff who can just connect a player up and write a review as I find it very time consuming. I know I will get a million people posting that I must be wrong but I gave it a good shot.
Best regards
PJTX100
Distinguished Member
Sounds a very thorough job and proves that on your setup the Tosh is best. Until you try comparisons like this you'd never know, at least you have the comfort that the effort you've put into it will leave you with a player which is getting the most out of your DVDs.
As is often quoted, it's the combination of the player and display which is important. In isolation there are no guarantees...PJ
As is often quoted, it's the combination of the player and display which is important. In isolation there are no guarantees...PJ
TankTopLover
Prominent Member
I have a Tosh 32 ZP48 and the pioneer looks amazing on it,no loss of detail or ringing at all.Very pleased.
Sometimes part of the hobby for me is trying to improve on things without spending silly money. Its all part of the fun. I also found that the only way I could really tell is to play parts of dvde and movies I know well then watch a scene and play it on another machine straight away. If I just sat and watched something for more than 5 minutes they all look good. I even took the lids off them so I could check out the chipsets. I think it might have been easier with a much larger image.
Sparticus,
I agree with what you say about the Pioneer pic. It was the same on my JVC28P37 CRT as your Tosh, and still shows the 'jaggies' on on Samsung LCD. I keep it because my Panny s97 does not do SACD or DIVX, and the Pioneer does them very well. The Pioneer pic is, imho, good but not great, but overall for the asking price in a peformance and features to cost ratio, it is a great little player.
I agree with what you say about the Pioneer pic. It was the same on my JVC28P37 CRT as your Tosh, and still shows the 'jaggies' on on Samsung LCD. I keep it because my Panny s97 does not do SACD or DIVX, and the Pioneer does them very well. The Pioneer pic is, imho, good but not great, but overall for the asking price in a peformance and features to cost ratio, it is a great little player.
Barzo
How did you find the 575 compared to your phillips? I own the phillips so I kept that for sacd. Stuart ringing depend on how the detail is set on the player and sharpness on the tv. If you want to look for it turn the detail up and watch dvd essential where the shuttle takes off. Against the sky it can look like an extra edge to the rocket - at first it looks like its supposed to be there. Turn detail to normal and its gone. Another sequence has a dark street lamp against the sky where you can see an extra shadow generated. You do have look close but thats the only way I found I could tell the difference in any of them.
How did you find the 575 compared to your phillips? I own the phillips so I kept that for sacd. Stuart ringing depend on how the detail is set on the player and sharpness on the tv. If you want to look for it turn the detail up and watch dvd essential where the shuttle takes off. Against the sky it can look like an extra edge to the rocket - at first it looks like its supposed to be there. Turn detail to normal and its gone. Another sequence has a dark street lamp against the sky where you can see an extra shadow generated. You do have look close but thats the only way I found I could tell the difference in any of them.
TankTopLover
Prominent Member
Im new to this player,were do i change detail? I cant find itsparticus said:
TankTopLover
Prominent Member
No worries,i looked and guessed that you must have meant sharpness,i changed it to fine and threw in a dvd (Return of the king) and the improvement was amazing! I thought the pq was perfect already but its even better now.I got Bad boys 2 superbit too and that looks and sounds awesome.sparticus said:
£7.99 each for superbit dvds here:
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=promo&r=R2&id=63&pa=prp
FREE POSTAGE!!!
Some people say superbit dvds are just a gimmik but i think they look great.
slackbladder
Established Member
Just one thing to add..
My Pioneer 575 has a problem with the first track of the SACD "Heathen". 11 seconds in and it skips to track two, every single time without fail. But it works fine on my old Sony NS705. Now SACD probably isn't a big deal for most people but it could be that the SACD on the 575 isn't as good as others, or at least the Sony 705.
Just thought I'd mention that.
My Pioneer 575 has a problem with the first track of the SACD "Heathen". 11 seconds in and it skips to track two, every single time without fail. But it works fine on my old Sony NS705. Now SACD probably isn't a big deal for most people but it could be that the SACD on the 575 isn't as good as others, or at least the Sony 705.
Just thought I'd mention that.
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