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Toshiba MT700 (Benq PE7700)

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by tokyojoe, Jun 1, 2005.

  1. tokyojoe

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    guys (i can assume that cant i?) wanted to share my experience of the Tosh MT 700. bought one of those puppies from pixmania. my purchase was based on some sketchy information to be fair, but with no sign of the benq (other than in the US), my itchy remote finger pulled the trigger and it arrived last week. shipped in one of those samsung hd945 hdmi players with it too.

    The Good:
    its a pretty big beast but surprisingly light. turned it on and at first had problems with the hdmi out from the samsung. my hunch is that the pj i got (european) doesnt support HDCP, even though on the uk site it says that it is HDReady. (probably why they arent widely available in the UK yet despite the april launch). used the samsung region hack to unencrypt the hdmi and the thing worked perfectly. tried component, and that was all good too. My comments are purely relative to my experience with pjs but the picture was awesome, and the only other real projector ive seen in the infocus5700 which i thought was mediocre. i was throwing a good 80-100" from about 9ft away on a bookshelf. bear in mind that i was throwing onto a white wall, and i can only say that the picture was brilliant. didnt change any settings other than the focus and the zoom controlled just by the lens. tried it with dvd, both hdmi and component as well as PC through the DVI2HDMI cable provided with the dvd player. text was crisp, and the colours while watching flying daggers was amazing. It was as good as watching it on my tosh plasma, only a much bigger screen ! Dont know much about scaling other that the dvd could upscale to 720p and 1080i, tried both and it looked great. Bearing in mind that i shipped that bad boy in for about £1650 i was astounded by how good the picture was.

    The Bad:
    So whats the bad youre asking ? Well, an hour into watching Liverpool embark on their record achievement in Europe, i decide to go over to the pj, and adjust the focus. BANG! thats what i heard when i did that, as well as the sound of glass shattering. Thatll be the lamp i thought. Guess what - it wouldnt work after that. So my relationship lasted an hour, which is a record for me actually..Dont understand how it happened, so can make a comment on that, but its 'electrical sensitivities' are something to be aware of.

    The Ugly:
    Ive been trying to return the faulty box back to pixmania, who are arranging a pick up to ferry it back, unfortunately despite promises of a courier arriving to take it back, 1 wasted day later there is still no sign of him. The thing is now sitting under my desk at work (as i type), and they assure me that some dude is going to come pick it up today. i have decided to get my money back from them, but i will place my order again with someone esle. you pays your monies....
     
  2. squibbly

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    Thanks for the post Tokyojoe. Happy to hear anything about the very similar MT700/PE7700s. There's not been much noise on them in the UK yet.

    Surprised at the lack of HDCP. I thought all HDMI outputs were HDCP compliant - DVI being the connection that can be with or without it This is said with no authority, only what I thought I'd picked up from reading. Forum members, please contradict here, since the lack of HDCP on the PE7700 would worry me, it being my intended purchase (as if you haven't worried me already with the MT700's 1 hour bulb life! :) )

    However, the review of the PE7700 at projectorcentral.com definitely says that it's HDCP compliant.

    Still, when/if you get your replacement, please give us some more feedback. I think there are a lot of us out there waiting to see if the PE7700 really is as good as those DLP projectors currently twice its price.

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    hey squibbly, - i know how it feels, - before i made my purchase there was a severe lack of info on the 7700 or the MT700. from speaking to loads of dealers, it appears that the only difference is the image processing technology. the tosh uses industry standard faroudja and the benq uses its own sense-eye technology. im willing to bet that they will be on par. i went for the tosh because i spoke to a dealer that had one, and he was well chuffed. He also commented that the optics may also be of a slightly better quality that the benq. So far in the uk, the tosh is priced at a few hundred pounds more that the benq (although i dont know anyone in the uk that has a 7700). I have a strong feeling that these two projectors are going to shake up the projector scene, as youd have to pay almost double to get the same resolution from one of the specialists like infocus. im willing to bet a lampless still unpicked up MT700 that the difference in quality is not worth the extra 2000 quid. Its really surprising that none of the mags or websites have thoroughly reviewed the MT700. just wait till you see the picture, the boys from optoma and infocus must be cacking themselves.
     
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    Yeah, the Tosh was very tempting at £2100 until the PE7700's price was announced. Mind you, well spotted with the Pixmania site. They seem to be stocking it at £450 lower than anyone else! Have they made some kind of error?

    I note that Optoma and Infocus have held off from price drops so far on their HD2s, whilst the new models are still not readily available (hardly anyone is stocking the MT700, why's that - no point if you're going to sell PE7700s?), but the next six months should prove very interesting.

    I'm diving in to buy in August or September, once the PE7700 is readily available, and my bank account has recovered from a recent holiday. I shall post a full review and then disappear from the forum to watch the DVD collection I've been accumulating.

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