Toshiba 55/65X9863DB 4K OLED Owners and Discussion Thread

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  1. encaser

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    Now they're on various sales websites, it'd appear time to post a discussion and owners thread.
    With starting prices around £1500 for the 55" and £2300 for the 65", it's all looking to be moving in the right direction - reviews pending.
    What do members think?
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    I have a feeling this will be a very lightly used thread. :love:
     
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    Info is thin on the ground, I’m interested in it because of the price and the fact i can get it on tick really easily!
    I won’t hold my breath for reviews, I don’t think anyone reviewed last years tosh oled did they?

    If it’s better than my B6 I’d grab it and flog the B6 on, maybe it’d be worth a few quid more what with it not being on the borked firmware!
     
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    Well, there was interest and a review on here for the electriQ budget set, which came off OK given its price and competition at that level, so I don't see why not. It is coming from an established Japanese base of knowledge after all. And a quick google demonstrates that there are quite a few review/electronics sites in Europe that have tagged this with initial articles. If it bombs and heads further into the bargain bin it could be a second set/budget dream.
     
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    They also have a range of dirt cheap led”s on the way with the full compliment of hdr standards including dv and Onkyo speakers built in, £549 for a 55 incher!

    Could be hot garbage or could be the uk customers answer to the TCL P series in the states.
     
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    Not really, as these are made by Vestel, who own the rights to use Toshiba's name in Europe, so more like a Turkish base of knowledge. Toshiba sold all remaining remnants of their TV business to Hisense late last year too (though this didn't affect the existing Vestel contract to use the name), so they're finally completely out of the TV game now and won't be returning.

    Having said that, I really want to see some reviews of these TVs. The fact that there's a 55" OLED with Dolby Vision support and seemingly all the bells and whistles you'd want launching at £1499 is potentially amazing. The main complaints about Vestel TVs are usually the inherently poor quality of the panel (not an issue here as it's just bought from LG like every other company), limited or no HDR support (seemingly addressed once again) and a poor smart TV system (but this one appears to be brand new and much more modern). From the reviews I've read of their cheap LCD TVs from last year, they actually handle motion, upscaling and general picture processing surprisingly well, and you'd expect those things would be even better on these OLEDs considering the gulf in price.

    I reckon they could potentially be an amazing bargain come Black Friday, by which time you'd think they'll be pretty close to the £1000 mark, if not slightly under, given the launch price. Unless Vestel have really screwed something up even relative to their own previous efforts, I have high hopes for them being at least very good for the money. After all, we've seen that a B-tier brand like Philips can produce an amazing OLED off the back of LG's panel, and even a near-unknown one like electriQ put in a decent effort.
     
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    According to review sites/press release, Toshiba stressed that the OLED range had their technical division for design/creation with staff also present at factory production for supervision. Ownership aside, Vestel and their staff have been said to only be involved in construction.
     
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    I’m gunna grab one of the led range if they get decent reviews, all hdr standards and 55” for £549!
    Doesn’t a tv have to reach a certain standard to get Dolby vision accreditation or is that all marketing nonsense?
     
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    But Toshiba don't have a technical division any more, so that's clearly baloney. They sold up entirely to Hisense last year, as I said. They have literally no involvement in making TVs any more, anywhere in the world, and had been simply licensing their brand out for years before that (2015 is when they sold their factories off). These are 100% Vestel sets and nothing would convince me otherwise. Sounds like the press release is trying deflect from Vestel's involvement because their name is dirt with so many people, whether that's fair or not.
     
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    I think THX certification is harder, going by the lower end stuff that's tagging on DV and paying for its inclusion.
     
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    Then Vestel must've also paid for some Japanese to stand next and talk to press at the OLED trade shows stands and for the published press articles!
     
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    They must have, yeah. Toshiba are not in the TV business any more.

    Toshiba sells TV business to China's Hisense

    They did not design these TVs. Vestel use the same TVs across many of their brands, with the only difference being the design elements and badge on the front. All of their "Toshiba" LCD TVs can be found with other badges on them. They're actually quite distinctive from the side. And oh, what a coincidence, Vestel also make Vestel-branded OLEDs (though don't sell them in the UK). Those also happen to have Dolby Vision support and very similar specs.

    Vestel 4K OLED TV playing Dolby Vision footage...

    I suppose Toshiba designed those too? That's Toshiba, the company who sold their entire TV business and have no experience making OLEDs, but swooped in to help design OLEDs for one of the largest TV manufacturers in the world. Somehow. After selling up to get out of the TV business. Makes sense to me!
     
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    OK, so now particularly as the 55X98 has dipped under £1000, is anyone going to review these? After all, the ElectriQ one got reviewed and yet (web-wide) no reviews of the Toshiba's. Seems odd.
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    Well i took a risk and bought the Toshiba 55X9863DB for £999 from my local Argos and yes i know who makes this tv but honestly after setting it up and testing my devices with it which are Apple 4k tv ,Xbox X,Ps4 Pro, and Samsung k8500 UHD player and i have not had a single issue.

    Dolby Vision from my 4KTV works great and i also tested HLG from the iplayer beta and that worked fine too.

    So so far so good for the vestal/LG OLED:D
     
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    Nice one. Bold move but then for the money it could be winner, winner no budget picture for dinner!
    How are you finding motion, banding, homogeneity and is there a full colour management system etc.? I see you've side stepped the OS with AppleTV but have you had a squiz to see how responsive it is and if any useful aps?
    A few screen shots would be appreciated. Have you done the dreaded slides or not bothering?
    Oh, enjoy!
     
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    Argos is showing as £1249 for me. How’s watching sports on this ? I’m close to buying one to thanks.
     
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    Several online places still £999, unless you want Argos to take it back to.
     
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    Richer sounds also still have it for £999 with a 6 year warranty. According to pricespy Costco have it for a tenner less at £989
     
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    Yea wanted Argos in case I have to return it. Rang Argos they don’t even price match lol.
     
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    I wouldn't take the risk on it being any good at £1k, when you can get a tried and trusted LG OLED for £100 more (or £150 less). I think it's fair to say the LG will be a better TV too.
    You also know the LG will be supported for at least a while into the future. Is that the case for the Vestel Toshiba?

    It's obviously your money but, that's my 2c.

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    A few pics more of the menu settings it would only let me upload a max of ten in the above thread.
     

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    Do you game on it, Just wondering what gaming is like on it ?
     
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    Hi

    Yes i do game on it i have tried COD / Battlefield V and Forza Horizon 4 so far on the X and it feels very responsive i am not noticing any lag in games so hopefully that means it has quite a low input lag but obviously until we see a review i can only go off how it feels to me.

    Looks bloody lovely though in HDR 4K
     
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    Could you post some pics please thanks
     
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    There are some pics above of the tv and menu system did you want something specific ? :)

    I have just watched a movie called THE SNOWMAN 2017 in 4K HDR and i was looking for any problems with the picture but i could not see any banding or anything in the pure white snow scenes in this movie.
     
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    thanks for the info so far can i ask would you mind testing 4k files from a usb and see how they play.im one click away from buying this.....:)
     
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    Gaming pics mate, it does sound like you have a good Panel tho .
     
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    Right i have tested four different 4K files from the site below via USB stick and they all play fine with no problems with sound or picture playback.

    4KSamples - Free Downloadable 4K Sample Content

    If you have any file type you want me to try via USB then let me know.
     

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    Best i can do for the moment and i don't think pictures can do it justice but it will give you an idea i suppose:)
     

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