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Tosh 36ZP18 - a few questions

Discussion in 'TVs' started by the_saints, Sep 9, 2001.

  1. the_saints

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    A few questions while I await my new Tosh 36ZP18. I managed to have a play with one and would like to know

    1) has anyone managed to get a fix for the two dark bands problem? Has anyone got a set that hasn't got this problem?

    2) similarly has anyone got a fix for the buzzing transformer

    3) does the TV come with any leads?

    4) how good is the packaging from Toshiba?
     
  2. sirees01

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    I have a 36ZP18P which I have had since May.Overall I am reasonably happy with it, with exception to 2 problems which I have.<br />In reply to your questions,<br />(1) I have the 2 vertical black lines problem, engineer visited last week & told me all widescreen tellys are like this. <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> I wasn`t happy with his reply & told him to contact Toshiba for an explanation.<br />(2) The transformer buzz was noticeable when I first had the telly, but now I cannot hear it at all, I think it`s still there but I have just forgotten about it.(until you mentioned it in your post <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> )<br />(3) I had no leads with my set<br />(4) Packaging was good, I would not have any worries in that department, the box is so heavy it`s not going to move in transit.

    Hope that answers all your questions.
     
  3. the_saints

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    Looking forward to (hopefully) getting my set soon - been on order for 3 months

    Must admit I am concerned by the 2 vertical bars. How many people don't have this problem?

    The buzzing on the sets I've had a look at also could be an irritant

    Just hope I get a perfect set!!!
     
  4. Nic Rhodes

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    I posted this a while ago, but still think it is relevant re vertical bars on ALL widescreen tvs

    Can I put forward a ‘possible’ explanation here:

    Watching 4:3 programs on 16:9 displays, you see vertical black bars on either side of the image. This causes windowboxing. It causes the phosphors in the image area to age faster than the phosphors in the black bars. This differential phosphor ageing can cause permanent damage to CRT devices (conventional tvs and CRT projectors). This is why screen savers are popular on computers and why ‘windows logo’ can often be seen burned into computer monitors. (I once had a hifi firm try and sell me a £10k CRT projector that had a famous game logo burned into the CRT tubes.)

    Stretch modes can help to minimise this effect but look crap. Correct calibration of settings minimises these problems and ensures long phosphor life. If some of the standard settings are used rather than the M setting, this will cause problems medium / long term. The phosphors should never be run at or near their limit, despite the Toshiba presets.

    4:3 sets have similar problems when displaying widescreen material, only there are horizontal bar problems.

    The moral of this is don’t ever buy an ex demo set from Curry’s or Comet. They have been hammered. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

    <br />The vertical lines only seem to occur after a period of use. Is this just wearing phosphor?
     
  5. the_saints

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    Doubledoom

    The set is on order from John Lewis who were swamped with price match orders with QED (£1300. Spoke with Tosh who told me that there was a shortage as the original batch sold out faster than expected.
     
  6. the_saints

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    I have seen the 2 vertical bars on two sets which were brand new out of the box so i don't thinks it's burn-in.

    Someone else in one of the (many!) Tosh 36ZP18 threads has posted that the engineer/Tosh came out with the excuse that all widescreen TVs have them!!
     
  7. Nic Rhodes

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    I had a Tosh 32MW7DB until a couple of weeks ago which i bought when it first came out about 3 years ago.

    The tv was kept in 4:3 mode as default and no vertical bars appeared on that. However, i like my contrast and brightness low so burn in would be unlikely.
     
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    In order for 3 months??? It's not as if there is a shortage of this model. Is your retailer ordering you a special gold plated version?
     
  10. the_saints

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    The thing is that the two vertical bars do not run to the edge of the screen - they are approx 2" in from the side and from their position and size I would not think they are burn in.

    I posted another thread to see if anyone has experienced this from another manufacturer as I have never seen this on any other set I have used.
     
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  12. Pauleylad

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    The engineer who came round to see my tosh said it was common on most big screen widescreen's. I don't think 28" widescreens will have a problem.

    Paul
     
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    Still waiting for mine ....

    but getting worried as I have seen yet another of the TVs brand new/out of the box which had the dark bar problem :-(
     
  14. Nic Rhodes

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    Enjoy the great performance of the tv and stop worrying about what might / could happen. Life is too short. Just enjoy.
     
  15. the_saints

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    I agree life is too short but unfortunately time taken to earn money is too long! <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> I don't want to spend a lot of money which has these "band problems" and then be told they are "normal". I agree that performance of the TV can be great - it's just that 3 sets I have now seen have these problems which are very evident when watching football!
     
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    Forgot to say that these 3 sets were all recent ones with the problem straight out of the box - no other problems good geometry with no tilt, no flaring just those bands ! ( and a buzzing!!!)
     
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    Nic

    Ditto

    Cheers<br />OG
     

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