I have to travel between offices for my company. Was in Dixons, Terminal 1. They had the HD5s in for 170 all in (tax free). I wanted to pick one up but as I have said on here, the playlist functionality is just not all there for me. So I picked up another Ipod color (I had a 60Gb but it hissed like hell with quality phones so it went back a few weeks ago). Well this one does not hiss as bad but they still have ambient background hiss from the internal amp when no music is playing, with a pair of e3c Shures. So if you are ever told they do not hiss, don't believe it. They have a slight background hiss that seems to vary from unit unit - but I must stress, you really need canal phones and sensitive ones at that to pick it up. But if you are into quality hifi its there for all to see (hear!). You will not pick it up with standard phones. But, the itunes playlist capabilities are excellent. I bloody *hate* the ipod image, I hate the 'lifestyle' ***** that goes with it and I truly want to buy another unit. But until another has the capability to Dynamically work out which tracks I play the most Which are my favourite ones Which ones my wife likes Which hiphop tracks I rate three and above and have played in the last two days Which tracks I haven`t yet played, so should be pushed to the unit for playing....etc, etc Then I`m stuck with the iPod, wearing a pair of black phones (so people don`t think I'm a ****), hiding the unit in a black case, and sneaking it out when the public are not there.