Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan Season 2 Review & Comments

mikeybabes2

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I thought it was trite, with a fully PC approved plot, and frankly bordering on stupid in the end.

A CIA agent taking a helicopter of 4 armed US Soldiers and attacking the presidential palace of a foreign country is an act of war.

Tom Clancy will be spinning in his grave a what they have with done to the Jack Ryan character.
 

bootyman81

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Finished it last night,
It’s Just great big ball of exciting escapist entertainment...loved it!
sad it’s finished but looking forward to S3
 

MikeTVMikeTV

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It starts really well but it's got nothing on season 1.

Bit lazy really as it moves on with lots and lots of prison break styleeee in the nick of time action.
 

symphara

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I watched season 1 and don’t remember any element of the plot. I just remember the two good looking main actors.

So I wasn’t waiting for season 2 with much trepidation. When it got to the Venezuela right-wing populist who ruined the country, and now it’s up to the nice social-democratic lady to save it, I turned it off and cancelled my subscription.

What’s next? Evil free-market alt-right libertarian Stalin, tormenting the Russian people, who need to be saved by that extraordinary Marxist LGBTQ++ lady of color?

Give me a break. We’re not living in the 1984 world yet - they can wait for history to happen before they rewrite it.
 

mtenga

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You forgot the efficient, blonde, Teutonic, remorseless killer. I’m not sure whether he or the feckless Latin President from the slums was the better cliche.
 

mattius1989

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Having watched through the first episode and started the second now, I'm not completely impressed with the image quality. I'm seeing evidence of a compromised bitrate in the shadows.

Anyone else watched on an up to date 2017 LG OLED or later and had similar issues? Trying to rule out the app being at fault.
 

mtenga

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Having watched through the first episode and started the second now, I'm not completely impressed with the image quality. I'm seeing evidence of a compromised bitrate in the shadows.

Anyone else watched on an up to date 2017 LG OLED or later and had similar issues? Trying to rule out the app being at fault.
I watched some on a 2017 LG E7 OLED and most on a 2019 Panasonic GZ950 OLED via Firestick on both. Quality was good though no DV for some reason. No negative PQ issue that I saw.
 

mattius1989

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I watched some on a 2017 LG E7 OLED and most on a 2019 Panasonic GZ950 OLED via Firestick on both. Quality was good though no DV for some reason. No negative PQ issue that I saw.
Perhaps take a close look at the car scene around the 27 minute mark of episode 2 when they are discussing their martial statuses. Pay attention to the shadows and let me know if you see posterisation(?)/artifacts.
 

mtenga

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Perhaps take a close look at the car scene around the 27 minute mark of episode 2 when they are discussing their martial statuses. Pay attention to the shadows and let me know if you see posterisation(?)/artifacts.
Yes just replayed that on the LG. Some red blobs that shouldn’t be there in that scene. But the exception rather than the rule after having watched the whole thing.
 

mattius1989

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Yes just replayed that on the LG. Some red blobs that shouldn’t be there in that scene. But the exception rather than the rule after having watched the whole thing.
Thanks for looking. I checked out Man in the High Castle too and it's the same issue so I'm suspecting the app or the bitrate.

I'll try out an external device and see if that solves it.

Haunting of Hill House (really dark) on Netflix doesn't have any issues like this and I do typically find Amazon's bitrate a bit on the low side even for HD content.
 

King Tones

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Watched the 1st few episodes and enjoying it so far. Just great entertainment and great to binge over a week or so. A good week of TV with this and Atypical back on our screens.
 

ggrossen

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I enjoyed this as well but they were definitely suspend disbelief parts. The London scenes were interesting but they did connect parts of London that aren’t connected. They also had my old college. So quite nostalgic watching this - george
 

mircea

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I thought it was trite, with a fully PC approved plot, and frankly bordering on stupid in the end.

A CIA agent taking a helicopter of 4 armed US Soldiers and attacking the presidential palace of a foreign country is an act of war.

Tom Clancy will be spinning in his grave a what they have with done to the Jack Ryan character.
It was stupid from the begining of this season
In first episode Jack Ryan is complete idiot to see an unknown woman following him from restaurant to hotel an let her in his room with free access to classified sh*ts
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I know, he is no Superman/genius but in this season there were too many stupid mistakes/plot holes. First season was decent/good imho.
 

leedebs

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I enjoyed this as well but they were definitely suspend disbelief parts. The London scenes were interesting but they did connect parts of London that aren’t connected. They also had my old college. So quite nostalgic watching this - george
Royal Holloway but said it was King Edward college?
 

ggrossen

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Royal Holloway but said it was King Edward college?
Yep - also they got there from Liverpool St - but hey this is fiction so a little bit of artistic licence is ok
 

Slinkywizard

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Wow, this is some predictable, trope-laden horsesh*t, filled to the brim with stereotypes and impossible to swallow events. I mean, right from the first scene, we’re expected to believe that the CIA’s chosen undercover operative in Moscow is a fat black guy. In Moscow. A black guy. Chosen. By the CIA. To go undercover. In Moscow. A black guy. In Moscow.

I have barely seen anything more risible in this genre. So utterly predictable too. The first time we see his Senator friend from Venezuela, I said to my GF: he’s gonna die. Scene after scene of him demonstrating what a great guy he is. He might as well just said the words ‘I’m gonna die and that’s gonna be the thing that lights a fire under you concerning the main plotline, but in the meantime here’s another scene of me demonstrating how inhumanly lovely I am’ in every single scene. He might as well have been daubing a target on his head.

On the technical side, black levels are elevated (common on Amazon stuff) and highlights muted, offering a washed out, unsatisfying image at Amazon’s usual ‘significantly lower than Netflix’ bitrate. There are artefacts all over the place.

Amazon is having a laugh at your expense here. The series was shot on ARRI Alexa Mini cameras — which are NOT 4K (3.2k max, but less if the image is wider as the sensor on the Mini is 4:3). if you want to compare to what real 4K looks like check out See on Apple TV+, with its native 4K production pipeline, finely tuned peaks and blacks and a bitrate nearly three times what’s offered here. It’s night and day. Jack Ryan should be labelled 'HD+' or something because it is categorically not 4K, and I've seen plenty of 1080p streams with more pleasing images.

Sound quality is also not great. Very compressed, and the supposedly Atmos soundtrack sounds like a 5.1 upscale — as in not mixed in Atmos by an engineer, but mixed in 5.1 and algorithmically extended. I've become very attuned to telling the difference. It's easy, in fact.

All in all I hated everything about this and didn’t make it past episode 2.

4/10
 
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richp007

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Wait a minute. Whilst I always like to see detailed reviews/info on TV/Film stuff, you didn't make it past episode 2?

I've just got the final episode to watch now, and whilst I'll admit it's not in the same league as Season 1, I certainly think some of the critique in here has been overly harsh. But that's just my opinion, and I know others are entitled to theirs.

I would say though you need to watch more than just 2 episodes before you can fully assess a story. I wasn't keen on the first episode myself, but it does improve and the storyline expands.
 

Slinkywizard

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Wait a minute. Whilst I always like to see detailed reviews/info on TV/Film stuff, you didn't make it past episode 2?

I've just got the final episode to watch now, and whilst I'll admit it's not in the same league as Season 1, I certainly think some of the critique in here has been overly harsh. But that's just my opinion, and I know others are entitled to theirs.

I would say though you need to watch more than just 2 episodes before you can fully assess a story. I wasn't keen on the first episode myself, but it does improve and the storyline expands.
I’m not a professional reviewer (anymore), so I get to stop watching things I’m not enjoying. I thought this was terrible in every way. Terrible script, bad for 4K image quality, predictable, and utterly ludicrous. If you can’t suspend your disbelief even for a second because they are throwing inconsistencies, plot holes and logic failures onto an already overburdened and poorly written show, there is no point continuing the torture.

I don’t mind others liking it. Don’t care. We’re all different. Just giving my honest opinion.
 

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