After hours of tweaking with my new graphics/sound cards, i have officially SUCCEEDED! Years back (well about a year or two) i decided to plug my composite lead into my 28" wide TV. it was shockingly bad. Most people would either leave it at that, or if they are really determined, decide that composite/s-video is rubbish and try vga to scart or component and waste away hours of their lives (i respect you guys btw!!!). I have a different kind of determination at the age of 17. Make what I've got serve its purpose, on a small budget. Ive got an s-video feed into my tv. Multi display set to clone mode to minimise processing, and res. set to 720x576 (dvd). That looked as bad as everything else, frankly. So i had a fiddle with size/pos to check it wasn't a "non- 1:1 pixel mapping thing". It wasn't, it was just bad. In the ATI Catalyst control panel I saw a setting (which I never saw in nvidia) "Video mode". Previously I thought this would just make things smoother. OH no. I'm using my TV now from 7 or 8 feet, with standard text size etc, and i can read it like im sitting in front of an lcd monitor. Im honestly flabbergasted. I cannot explain how clear it is, and although the overscan renders the task bar, lets say "hard to use", who cares? I can surf the net, use MCE (in awe of the clarity) and anything else people use PC's for ( ) in 28" widescreen heaven. Im so happy I havent dared look at a DVD for FRC artefacts. the thought terrifies me, think ill leave it to the morning! Just to let everyone know, its possible.