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Big Jim

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Messiah

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Hi Jim. Until last week I was using a Linksys WET11 (802.11b / 11Mbps) bridge shared between my Xbox and TiVo through a small 5 port switch. Last week I upgraded that to a Linksys 54Mbps wireless bridge and both work flawlessly with a Netgaer 834G WAP.

Shame you didn't ask last week as I sold my 2 as new WET11's for £60 the pair :(

TiVo has absolutely no problem at all working with a wireless link. However, if you wish to stream from it then I would wholeheartedly recommend a cable connection as even a 54Mbps (802.11g) wireless connection struggles.
 
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Morning,

Unfortunately, due to where things are around the house, a cable is right out, so I'm back to 11g as the next best thing.

With wireless do you just get the slower transfer rate, or have you had dropouts while transferring the ty files to the PC with tystudio?

Cheers on the WET11's, though I probably would have passed for 11g stuff.
 

Messiah

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No dropouts, just rather slow. Bare in mind whilst 802.11g is faster it has poorer range.
 
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That's all right then, slowness I can deal with.

Any other experiences with tivo and wireless bridges?
 
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In case anyone is interested, My tivo is now humnming along with a 160G disk, cachecard w/512mb, and is updating over wlan via a WGE101. No problems so far, but I haven't tried video extraction yet...
 

surrey lad

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Hi Jim,

What's the main benefits of using the cachecard? I understand the theory behind it and that it makes the tivo react faster, the only thing that my TiVo does slowly is channel hopping.

I've had my tivo now for 6 months and is totally standard. Due to our 10 day hols next week my wife has bought tivo a 120gig pressie. I'm going to attempt the upgrade tonight. :rolleyes:

I was planning on networking the tivo next, but can't decide if to follow the route that you have taken or to just buy the airnet upgrade card.

Many Thanks

surrey lad :smashin:
 
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The cachecard benefits are a faster network interface compared to the turbonet (great for video extraction via tytool - when I get round to installing it), and the ability to use the RAM for caching. Compared to the airnet I would go for one, as you can get the antenna out of the box, it's faster, and you have the caching there if you ever need it.

With the memory in mine, the main benefit seems to be that it snaps through the tivo menu's really fast. I gather that after upgrading moving through 'now playing' and reordering season passes and similar are very slow - increasingly so the more you have on the card. Mine is pretty full now (53 hrs best qual) and it's still really fast.

I found the basic upgrade very very straightforward - follow the hinsdale instructions to the letter with the mfstools2 cd and you will have no problems. print the instructions out first and then go through it and highlight the config you will be using. I would reccomend replacing your 40gb disk with the new 120gb one. you can backup/restore onto it then, testing your backup image at the same time.

It was a bit more involved for me with the 160Gb drive, as the kernel has to be upgraded to use the bit above 137GiB, but even that was straightforward once I had found the ptvupgrade cd and the copykern script on the super long thread on the tivocommunity forum.

Network was very easy to get the card up and connecting, but it was the middle of the night by that point and so I haven't set up a console prompt/tivoweb/ftp/tytool yet. Very good instructions at http://tivo.stevejenkins.com/network_cd.html on getting all the networking stuff going. http://www.silicondust.com/ NIC card install instructions here.
 
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Couple of quotes from Tivocommunity on speed without a cachecard.
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=1604350#post1604350

what you are seing is normal, the cachecard that was just released is supposed to help this (I havn't got mine working yet so I can't say for sure )

basicly the more data the tivo has to pull from disk to make the screen the slower it is, with a couple hundred gigs of shows it takes a while.

you should try it with a 200 gig + 200 gig. Wow, that's a comfortably large amount of space. But oy vey, the woman complains (and I do too..) ... after deleting a program, or going to now showing.. it takes sometimes up to 2 minutes to become responsive!!!

Cachecard should be arriving Monday. I'll try to remember to report how much this issue is alleviated.
I'm going to reiterate a warning to those of you doing this.

If you go to 400 gig, (2 wd 200 gig drives), be prepared for excruciatingly slow usage once it is full. It is so bad now that if I did not already have a cachecard (that I have not yet experimented with), I would at this point reduce the tivo size to 200 gig or so.

It really does border on UNUSABLE at this size. Playback is fine, but viewing the "now showing" list, deleting programs, scheduling a program, and so on are bad. Wait times are 40 seconds - 3 minutes, typically. I read a report of someone using the cachecard that said he had a 28 minute update time when adding/modifying a season pass. (cachecard reduced this to 1 min 30 sec).

Oy vey!
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?postid=1622034#post1622034 Very useful simple instructions on upgrading to the big disk kernel - this is what I most followed for anyone who is interested.
 

surrey lad

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Wow!!! Thanks Jim your a star.

I've got the pc lid off, instructions printed and relavent points highlighted and tivo is also looking rather naked without its lid. :D


I'll atempt this after the footie ;)

One last question, you recomend using the new 120gig hd as drive A and use the existing 40gig as drive B?

Many Thanks

surrey lad
 
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Big Jim

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football. a*se.

I would go just the 120 for the moment, it's easy enough to add the 40gb later, and it means you have the 40gb as well as your backup (DO make one)if there are any problems. you never know, you might fancy another 120 soon...
 

surrey lad

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Don't mention the footie!!

I did struggle at first, at 1am i was close to throwing in the towel but then all of a sudden the penny dropped and I was off again. :suicide:

Drive A is now 120gig and Drive B is 40gig(old drive A) with no lost of recordings or settings. I'll replace drive B with a lets say, 160-200g when I come back of my hols.

It's now 4am and I need some sleep, got to be up for 6 for work. :rolleyes:

Thanks Jim

surre............ :boring:
 

surrey lad

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Hey, and I made it to work early.

Great sense of achievement!!

Its not every morning I walk into work with a big grin on my face :D
 

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