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Time for upgrade? Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by Jenz, Apr 16, 2002.

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  1. Jenz

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    OK due to circumstances beyond my control it looks like I may need to do an upgrade and move my Cinema into another room.

    The problem with this room is that at one end it has a set of patio doors.

    What I'm considering is using a 16x9 motorised screen that will lower down over these patio doors to give me a circa 15ft wide screen. Does anyone know of a suitable screen manufacturer that could provide such a screen? and likely ballpark price? Has to be motorised.

    Now keeping it dark I will be looking at black out curtains. Current blackout curtains work really well and therefore this seems the sensible route to go behind the screen. Now does anyone have any other creative ideas on this instead?

    Finally that damn centre speaker... will obviously be sat on its own potentially in the middle of the patio doors. Whereas could it go? Up on the ceiling? would lose to much sound behind the screen obviously?

    Projector will be Barco 1209, fed by my HCPC ;) and an Arcam FMJ DV27/Rock Combo (because we cant get damn SDI out da Arcam :()

    Regards Jenz.
     
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    Neil:

    Are you looking for a 15ft wide viewable image.....or how about a 15ft wide screen with a 10ft viewable image inside with black borders? I can get costs for this if you let me know what you want.

    I'm not a fan of acoustic screens but....if you put it up high you could just perf the black area at top and fire through that or if it is at bottom just perf the bottom black border. Costs less than doing whole screen and gives best of both worlds!

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    Jenz,

    I did a quick ftl calculation for you, with a 15ft wide 2.0 gain 16:9 screen you are looking at 3.8 ftl. With a 10ft wide screen you would get 8.5 which should be OK.
     
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    Oh yes, hands off my 1209 :p :D
     
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    15ft wide image, 10ft is too small :)
     
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    Could you get another 808 and double stack them to give a brighter image?

    Twice the noise though too!
     
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    can you attach the centre speaker to the bottom of the screen...??

    you would also need to tension/retract the speaker cable.... getting complicated now... just an idea..

    Sounds like an awesome project though... my 6ft screen feels very inferior...
     
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    OK further problems with 15ft wide screen is that the weight of the material can cause bowing of the drum itself. Also you need rather a large housing for curling all that material in to...having said that ...Neil, you have mail!

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    Oh god!
     
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    Loads for every one.;)

    Jeff I have your pj here (at last) will test screen size tonight.
     
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    Neil,
    Have you finally lost it :eek: ? 15ft..........
    If you want to carry on with CRT you really need a double stack of 9 inchers here (assuming you dont buy a million gain screen with hot spotting to match). I'm presuming you dont live at Skywalker ranch so two 9 inchers might take up too much room. If this is the case, I would advise (again on the presumption that you must have a 15ft wide screen) that you go the DiLA route.

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    Jenz,
    Is this a wind up, mate? A 15ft wide 16:9 screen is going to give an 8ft 5" tall image:eek:

    Add the depth of a roller & case (say 10" on the conservative side) and you've got a combined height of 9ft 3" excluding black borders. Just how tall is your ceiling height?

    I've sold big electric screens in the past. Did a 16ft wide one for a nightclub. The screen and motorized roller was about £1800 + VAT, plus about £200 for delivery. We had to hire a flatbed truck because the screen + packing crate was too big for the normal shipping company vehicles. The metal case was another £200 + VAT.

    A 1209 is bright, but 15ft is pushing it a bit without sacrificing punch and image depth. The only other projectors capable of filling that acreage of screen surface would be some lamp powered single lens device. I've used a 1300 ANSI 3 chip DLP on a similar size screen in blackout conditions - it looked good (for a chip projector) but lacked the depth of a CRT.

    I'll watch this one develop with interest.

    Regards
     
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    I like this man.:kisses:

    10 -12 ft would be big enough. for a 1209.

    Those who went to the Hammersmith show last year may have seen a 1209 on a 10ft screen
     
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    15 foot screen would mean sitting quite a long way from it? Wouldn't a slightly smaller, hence brighter screen with your seats pulled up closer be a better option?
     
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    Nick yes it would be but I am considering using al lthe available space...

    That was of course until I saw the cost of the screen.... jeez..
     
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    F...ck me m8, do you live in st pauls cathederal ???????:eek:
     
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    So how far back would you need to go to get the 'throw' for 15'? Around 24' about right? So, plus a bit of room for the PJ itself, & you're talking close to 28' long + 16' wide to allow for some black borders. You don't want the image blending into the side walls. And a ceiling height of around 10' for comfort. If you go ahead with this one Neil, I'd lurve an invite to the premiere! I'll supply the ice creams mate. ;) (even better, iced beers )
     
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