Time for a Blu Ray player, but which one?

Voy06

Active Member
Ok guys if you had a budget of say £300-£400 what blu ray player would you buy. Would you buy one now, if so which one or would you wait for the new Blu ray players that are comming out in the next couple of months.

Also I am not really that bothered about what profile it is. PQ is the most important aspect.

Thanks guys, done a bit of homework but still unsure whether to take the plunge now or wait a while.

Any advice, recommendations greatly appreciated.
 

Badger0-0

Distinguished Member
PS3, I'd say. I don't have one, but it's highly rated for PQ, is an excellent up-scaler by all accounts and with it being a games m/c too, should have a better resale value, I'd have thought.
 

Voy06

Active Member
PS3, I'd say. I don't have one, but it's highly rated for PQ, is an excellent up-scaler by all accounts and with it being a games m/c too, should have a better resale value, I'd have thought.
I was considering a PS3 but apparently the latest standalone blu ray players have better PQ.
 

Badger0-0

Distinguished Member
Very possibly so, I do remember one being mentioned as definitely better than the PS3, but it was nearer £500.
I was just chucking it into the mix, as I'm sure other people will agree that for the dough, it's a great deal and within the price range you mentioned :smashin:

It's certainly the one I would go for, ATM, but I'd be interested in other comments, as PQ would be a priority for me too and I don't game.
I may be in the market myself, soonish.
 

Avi

Distinguished Member
I was considering a PS3 but apparently the latest standalone blu ray players have better PQ.
What is better ?

I've been comparing Blu-ray film material a PS3 with Panasonic BD30. So far the only real difference I've found are around how the players are calibrated due to differences in output options. Although I've asked no one has so far provided specific examples of material that demonstrates a notieceable PQ difference between these players when calibrated.

I'm very wary of magazine reviews or user reports when players haven't been calibrated to remove this as a variable.

AVI
 

Voy06

Active Member
I'm not saying any blu ray player is better than a PS3 for PQ, its merely what I have heard and read .
 

Avi

Distinguished Member
I'm not saying any blu ray player is better than a PS3 for PQ, its merely what I have heard and read .
I understand I was just asking what aspect of PQ and from what products did the articles or people claim was better? We are fed so much misinformation my mags and online reviews that it difficult to work out what's real and what isn't. :)

AVI
 

Voy06

Active Member
One Blu Ray player I do have my eye on is the Panasonic SC-BT100. I don't suppose there are any release dates or prices yet for the UK?
 

kingfats

Distinguished Member
I was considering a PS3 but apparently the latest standalone blu ray players have better PQ.
Hi Voy06. :)
No standalone will beat the PS3 on BD PQ :smashin: there all near enough identical PQ wise if you ask me. :D
I would recommend the PS3 as a Blu-ray player,great value for money and trouble free playback.
All the best.
 

the mechanic

Novice Member
Hi all,
Having both a PS3 (60Gb) and a Samsung BD-P1400 and doing some comparisons I find there to be no discernable difference in PQ.
The audio side of things are also inconclusive as both players deliver HD audio to a high standard the only difference being I get the pretty DTS HD MSTR led's lighting up on my Denon when using the Sammy (disc dependant of course) due to the PS3 not being able to bitstream the audio which TBH is no great shakes as it does de-code it very well.
The biggest difference though is the start up times between the two. The Sammy being a profile 1.0 player does take some time to load a java heavy disc (Resident evil extinction for example) whilst the PS3 loads so much more quickly as it is the only profile 2.0 player available at this time.
As you say, profile ratings are not a major concern to youself, but I would have to say the PS3 would be a better bet all round as it loads quicker, is future proofed via firmware updates and as has been mentioned, resale value will be higher should you decide to make any changes to your kit at a later date.

P.S the PS3 is also quiet (almost silent in fact) when playing movies, so much moreso than the Sammy and less than many other standalones I bet too.

Graham.
 

Voy06

Active Member
Hi Voy06. :)
No standalone will beat the PS3 on BD PQ :smashin: there all near enough identical PQ wise if you ask me. :D
I would recommend the PS3 as a Blu-ray player,great value for money and trouble free playback.
All the best.
How much are PS3's retailing for now? where is the cheapest place to buy one.
 

Ian_S

Distinguished Member
Ok guys if you had a budget of say £300-£400 what blu ray player would you buy. Would you buy one now, if so which one or would you wait for the new Blu ray players that are comming out in the next couple of months.

Also I am not really that bothered about what profile it is. PQ is the most important aspect.

Thanks guys, done a bit of homework but still unsure whether to take the plunge now or wait a while.

Any advice, recommendations greatly appreciated.
Personally right now I would wait if you can.

Yes at present the PS3 ticks most boxes, but it depends what you want. It's a bit harder to integrate a PS3 into an existing setup with a universal remote, it can be done, but starts to look a little odd, not so bad if it's hidden in a cabinet. Also, if you need them there is no multi-channel analogue output from a PS3. However, if you want quick and fully featured, it stands alone right now, your only other alternative being a much more complicated and more expensive HTPC build. (PowerDVD 8 should now convert all audio to multi-channel PCM over HDMI like the PS3 and is now Profile 2.0 compliant. The right PC spec will even beat the PS3 for performance.)

There are quite a few players due by year end, and all will be at least profile 1.1 or Bonus View capable, with some (Sony, Samsung) upgradeable to BD-Live. Units are coming from Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Denon, Marantz, Philips, Sharp, and probably some cheaper brands as well.

So, if you want a more conventional player, wait. If you decide the PS3 is the player for you, buy whenever, although I would also expect the PS3 pricing, even through bundles, to be keener in the run up to Xmas...

No obvious answer right now, and until they arrive, we won't know how good or not the new models are.
 

RODCULL

Novice Member
One Blu Ray player I do have my eye on is the Panasonic SC-BT100. I don't suppose there are any release dates or prices yet for the UK?
I guess the release dates, availability and cost could change, but Komplett (www.komplett.co.uk) currently have it advertised on their website for £669.00, with one piece (!) expected on 31st July.
 

milesr3

Active Member
I would say PS3 as I just bought one last week off this very forum:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=758645
Hard to beat for the price IMO.

PQ is very good and it loads very quickly (unlike the Toshiba HD-EP30 it replaced). I particularly like the versatility it offers with setting up the supported resolution and decode formats across all its outputs and the info popup that tells you what decode and video bitrate you are getting.

You can also control it with a universal remote with one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ps3-Blu-Ray..._2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1211194834&sr=8-2
 

Keith Lynn

Standard Member
Guy's....

Need some help... :lease: Same question "Which Player"...

I have read some of the threads but all seem to go for the PS3, which is great but I do not want another games console, already have the PS2, which I don't play a great deal & the Wii, which I do...

I want a decent player, which can play good HD content... My TV is a Pioneer 42" Plasma.

My budget is around £350.....

If all roads lead to PS3 then I may not have a choice....

Hope someone can assist...

Thx

Keith
 
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Deleted member 92943

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Don't think of the PS3 as a games console. Simply just buy it for Blu-Ray.

If you really wanted. You could always search for a 60GB console and then play your PS2 games on that

Where as i'm sure other Blu-Ray players on the market are as good as if not better than the PS3, the PS3 is simply the best Value for moneyat the moment and is more than likely to be the most updated player on the market.

Only issues i guess are no Analogue outputs and the fact it can't output sound via Bitstream
 

kingfats

Distinguished Member
Guy's....

Need some help... :lease: Same question "Which Player"...

I have read some of the threads but all seem to go for the PS3, which is great but I do not want another games console, already have the PS2, which I don't play a great deal & the Wii, which I do...

I want a decent player, which can play good HD content... My TV is a Pioneer 42" Plasma.

My budget is around £350.....

If all roads lead to PS3 then I may not have a choice....

Hope someone can assist...

Thx

Keith
Hi Keith Lynn. :)
The PS3 does go well with the Pioneer :D you've also got the Samsung 1400 and the Panasonic BD30 to look into. :smashin:
What are you looking for features wise?
All the best.
 

Keith Lynn

Standard Member
Hi Keith Lynn. :)
The PS3 does go well with the Pioneer :D you've also got the Samsung 1400 and the Panasonic BD30 to look into. :smashin:
What are you looking for features wise?
All the best.
Hi Kingfats..... I have heard good things about the Panny BD30, some decent offers out their.... What about the Sony BDPS300, again some good offers? Saw it in action at the weekend at John Lewis, with Casino Royale.. Great picture...

Feature wise? It can upscale normal DVD's, which I still have loads, as well as good PQ for DR Disc's. It has to also pump out decent Audio.. My current amp is a little old, so HDMi only component & optical.. Think it is 5.1..

Lastly how important is it to get firmware upgrades on a Pioneer TV which is 1080i???

Thx

Keith
 

Keith Lynn

Standard Member
Don't think of the PS3 as a games console. Simply just buy it for Blu-Ray.

If you really wanted. You could always search for a 60GB console and then play your PS2 games on that

Where as i'm sure other Blu-Ray players on the market are as good as if not better than the PS3, the PS3 is simply the best Value for moneyat the moment and is more than likely to be the most updated player on the market.

Only issues i guess are no Analogue outputs and the fact it can't output sound via Bitstream
Hi Benchy... The only problem with the PS3 60GB is it is rare in these parts, ones that are still available are expensive... Maybe sell or trade in my PS2 & games...??
 

kingfats

Distinguished Member
Feature wise? It can upscale normal DVD's, which I still have loads, as well as good PQ for DR Disc's. It has to also pump out decent Audio.. My current amp is a little old, so HDMi only component & optical.. Think it is 5.1..

Lastly how important is it to get firmware upgrades on a Pioneer TV which is 1080i???

Thx

Keith
Hi Keith Lynn. :)
Don't worry about the PQ issue with BD players :smashin: they all output a great picture. :D
Firmware upgrades? :) do you mean by the player,also what gen is your Plasma.
Cheers.
 
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Deleted member 92943

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Hi Benchy... The only problem with the PS3 60GB is it is rare in these parts, ones that are still available are expensive... Maybe sell or trade in my PS2 & games...??
I guess it depends how important it is for you to have 'one less box' under the TV.

Personally i would just pick up a 40GB console. Look for a good bundle with games as you can always take them into gamestaion and swap them for blu-Rays. Pick up an offical remote too as it's far better than using the PS3 controller.

Like i mentioned before, if you are after HD sound but don't have a HDMI amp then perhaps you need to look for a dedicated Blu-Ray player to use with your amp.
 

Keith Lynn

Standard Member
Hi Keith Lynn. :)
Don't worry about the PQ issue with BD players :smashin: they all output a great picture. :D
Firmware upgrades? :) do you mean by the player,also what gen is your Plasma.
Cheers.
Hi Mate... Yes I mean the player. I keep hearing about upgrades etc etc.. Is it all important if all u want is a good picture & sound??

My Pioneer is the PDP-427XD.... Great TV.

What about the Sony BDPS300, or should I look at the Panny, again some good deals out their??

Thx :)
Keith
 

kingfats

Distinguished Member
Hi Mate... Yes I mean the player. I keep hearing about upgrades etc etc.. Is it all important if all u want is a good picture & sound??

My Pioneer is the PDP-427XD.... Great TV.

What about the Sony BDPS300, or should I look at the Panny, again some good deals out their??

Thx :)
Keith
Hi mate. :)
For value for money,performance and reliability :) i have to recommend the PS3 :smashin: of course your choice and research away the other players if you want. ;)
You can set the player to 1080p/24 (your TV accepts this) for judder free playback with BD movies :) also the PS3 can be updated via wireless internet connection,which is great...........if you can make use of it of course. :D
All the best.
 

Avi

Distinguished Member
What about the Sony BDPS300, or should I look at the Panny, again some good deals out their??
I've owned the S300 and BD30. The biggest downside of the S300 is load time with are BD-J heavy titles. Some discs take several minutes (4+ in extreme cases) to load (just to watch the movie not extras) and it's a bit sluggish to respond to remote commands. As more and more discs start to use BD-J this maybe a bigger issue. The BD30 is quicker to load (same titles takes around half the time to load) but is still slower than the PS3. In terms of PQ there was no perceivable benefit compared to the PS3 in my setup. If you require bitstream HD audio or analogue audio the standalones offer more options.

AVI
 

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