Throttling now a reality

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  1. bjjgann

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    Virgin have started throttling between 4pm and midnight ... extract below

    Customers on the "M" package will be throttled from 2Mb/s to 1Mb/s download speed and 128Kb/s upload once they have downloaded 350MB during the eight hour period. "L" subscribers will be allowed to run at full 4Mb/s speed until they hit 750MB, when downloads will be capped at 2Mb/s and uploads at 192Kb/s. Premium "XL" punters, paying £37 per month for 10Mb/s broadband, will be rationed to 3GB at full clip: anything more will come downstream at 5Mb/s and go upstream at 256Kb.

    Virgin is in the process of upgrading the cable network for its top-paying subscribers to allow downloads at 20Mb/s. Theoretically, this speed would exhaust the 3GB limit in just 20 minutes.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/08/vigin_nationwide_throttling/
     
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    This really annoys me

    Why bother to offer the 20mb upgrade and charge us £37 for the service if you can only really use it late at night or during the day (when most of us are at work) they should have just left it as telewest who knew how to keep us happy.

    3gb is nothing by todays standards especially when you have a 20mb line
     
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    I'm now paying £37 as from 7-05-2007 for 10mb/s
    but I'm so ******* **** off at Virgin because I am lucky to get :mad: 120 to 195kb/s download allday for 20hours, been like this for the last 7 months but I do get the full speed (1.1mb/s) between 3am til around 8am:mad:


    don't want ******** 20mb just want my 10mb
     
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    Here we go again :suicide:
    By the way, before this thread gets out of hand im with you guys on this

    all i can hope for is that Virgin take ages to upgrade my connection.
     
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    I think Telewest had quite different customers in mind to Virgin.

    Telewest were clearly determined to satisfy the heavy user who was prepared to pay a premium for net acces on their terms.

    Virgin are more focused on the casual user (the 3 for £30 and 4 for £40 are advertised everywhere but I'm yet to see any VIP advertising) but found themselves stuck with all these keen heavy users.

    It was a disapointing day when Be turned up and made ADSL faster than Cable. And it looks like Virgin are not prepared to push cable back in front :(
     
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    very true

    I'm ex telewest, heavy user
    was happy paying £50 a month for 2mb when my speeds was always 200kb/s download.

    will be happy 2 pay £50 now for 10mb that always 1mb/s download
     
  7. Paul Francini

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    I'm ex telewest aswell and started on 1mb bb (fastest available at the time) and i was happy paying £50 a month as the service was always online and working 100%!

    Since early march my internet conection has been on and off all the time, basically since virgin took over. And the speed i get is all over the place, one hour i'm getting full speed then half speed, back up to full speed then to snale pace etc etc....
     
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    I'm 1.29km from my nearest exchange (as the crow flies) so I reckon I could achieve 15Mb of Be's 24Mb.

    I reckon the difference between 15Mb and 20Mb will be very small for what Virgin call fair use (i.e. web browsing, emails, what we used to do via dial up in the mid-nineties) so it will only really take effect when downloading massive amounts that take hours even at 20Mbit.

    Now assuming Virgin offer me 20Mbps for 16 hours and 5 Mbps for 8 hours that gives me 162 Gigabytes per day (never actually gonna download that much and I'm currently finding Virgin's speed quite erratic so in reality maybe less!).

    If Be offer me 15Mbps for 24 hours that gives me 158 Gigabytes per day, so really not much in it. And I'm afraid I regularly set things such as Xbox Marketplace Demos, HD Video files, etc. downloading when I first get in the door from work ready to play / watch after dinner so it could actually be in Be's win here.

    Also, I'm a big fan of Xbox Live and thats all about upload. We all know that Be's 1.3Mbps upload :censored: all over Virgin's, and for a few extra pennies there is 2.5Mbps available!

    If only I could get out of that £120 BT installation cost :mad:

    Such a shame that I'm seriously considering this. That installation cost is feeling smaller and smaller. If I go this way I reckon I'll be abandoning cable for all services (have to check if I could get a Sky dish), which is a shame because I will miss On Demand.
     
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    to change the subject for a moment what's the verdict on Be.
    as ive been very happy (and still am at the moment) with my 10mb BB ive not paid any interest in other ISP's.
    As im thinking of going to Sky later this year ive just looked up Be and it seems like a good service. Are there any reviews or discussions about them?

    Cheers
     
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    my top speed for most of the day:rolleyes:
     

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    disgusting!! all about the money.. ppl dont matter anymore the worlds f***ed.
     
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    not happy at all. from 1.14mb per sec to 250kbs.
     
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    Started downloading something about 10 minutes ago, speed is not even 40% of what it's supposed to be, good job Virgin :thumbsdow
     
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    I know a few people using them and are nothing but complimentary! Some of them are downloading a fair amount of TV shows and haven't had any moans from Be.

    You get the usual delays getting started up like you always do with ADSL (usually about a month I think) but when its up and running its good :smashin:

    EDIT: Just emailed Be asking for a speed estimate. That BT installation cost is feeling smaller and smaller...
     
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    aww just saw bbc news state some terrible news "virgin has annouced its lsing customers" hmmmm wonder why??
     
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    Thanks Kevin
    the way i see it is if i loose virgin my only other option is Sky. noting against Sky and in fact i would prefer it but i know Sky also have BB so Be might not be a good option price wise.
    Anyway, its a long way off yet.
    Even when (not if ;-) i get capped im sure i can live with it until i decide to move on. Tested it out last night. im still on 10mb but i downloaded 4.5gb in just over an hour without any capping so maybe it is only once the speed goes up.
     
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    We all know why but at least its not just us here that think the same.
     
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    Remeber this back in 2003..?

    I was so proud to be a cable customer!

     
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    Using BE I get a pretty much constant 2.7MB/s download speed (from newsgroups) which is right on my synch speed of 21 meg. It's cheaper than virgin and the service and support is fantastic. Go for it.
     
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    How far are you from your exchange..? Use this, http://www.dslzoneuk.net/distance.php
     
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    My connection has been hit and miss over the last couple of months, I wonder if it's to do with this ? Before this I was very happy with my 4mb connection, but have noticed that downloading seems slower than it should be and surfing speeds have slowed down as well.
    It might be time for me to look at another provider, but that would mean losing all my ntlworld email addresses and I'd have to change lots of logins etc :( I'd rather Virgin sort it out and give us a proper service back again.
     
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    thats a very handy site, i've been looking at BE aswell of late and have to say there deals are very good.
    I've just tried that site and it says "You are around 2.08 kilometres from your exchange." So what sort of speeds should i expect to get if i went for BE?
     
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    Thanks for that site Kevin a handy little tool. Going by that site i am 650metres from my exchange. Not sure how they work it out but i am assuming i would get a pretty decent connection.


    Think i may give Be a 3month tester and see how i get on.
     
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    u soo lucky man!!

    i really wanna try be but they are not in my area i dont think
     
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    I used to live 750 metres from my exchange and got a rock solid 7MB on an 8MB Bulldog line.


    I'm currently 1km away and I'd love to leave Virgin in protest (service has been cack last few days and it's not due to capping) but I'm on such a cheap deal I'd end up paying double for anything else.
     
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    im 1.9km from my exchange - what type of speed could i expect (didnt know be was in my area!!)
     
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    320m. Which I know is very close - other people using BE that are this close get the full 24 Meg, but I've not bothered with any tweaks or anything.

    If you are wondering what sort of speed to expect, I am no expert. There's a BE forum on www.adslguide.org.uk where your question would most certainly be answered. Also there are unofficial BE forums at http://www.dontbethere.co.uk/forum/default.aspx.

    At a rough guess for a 1km line you will get around 16 - 18 meg for a 2km line around 10. Remember your upload will still be 1.3 meg though.

    BE don't have any contention on their network.
     
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    That's a great link Kevin, thanks. Turns out I'm 860 metres from my exchange. Virgin Media better be worried, as Sky keeps looking more and more tempting.

    Nick
     
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    I am 1.11km from exchange and get a rock solid 1.3MB download speed from my UKOnline 20Mb connection.
     
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    Had a reply from Be. They cannot offer an estimate of download speed - felt more likely that they didn't want to commit which is understandable.

    Still, its £125 installation with BT and a 12 month committment of £11 a month line rental, so really just over £250 quid gamble just to try out Be broadband :(

    I was thinking last night that this merger between NTL and Telewest may not have been a good thing for UK cable. Although NTL and Telewest were never in direct competition with each other at least they kept raising the bar. Now that there is only 1 cable operator in the UK I reckon DOCSIS3 is a long way off :(
     

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