Three quick Velodyne Questions

[jackal]

Firstly does any one have experience with the SPL1000r/SPL1200R - how do they compare with others at the price? Is the graphic room EQ any good.

Thirdly who sells Velodyne online? I notice that AV-sales do not do them anymore and I have only found Hifibitz and Future Home so far.

 

[recruit]

Heard the SPL1200R and it is a good sub...but i have heard the new SVS SB12+ and IMO it is just as good if not better considering the price differences.

Edit: thought i would also add that the Room EQ that is on the Velodynes is very basic and the Denon's Audessy would probably be of more use than that of the SPL series.

 

[dingwall]

If it doesn't get bleeped out, then http://www.****************.com/ seems to sell Velodyne subs, lol.

I had the Velodyne SPL-1200 II, exact same as the R without the EQ, and didn't think much of it at all for my needs. If I was crossing over very low (below 60hz), didn't mostly listen to music, and really did need a tiny sub, then it may have been a different story. Otherwise, the Jamo A7 which I also had and A/Bed in various rooms, comprehensively outperformed the Velodyne IMO. This was local to you, so shame you didn't ask when I had these as I would have gladly demo'ed them for you!

Don't mistake this as a recommendation for the SVS though, I've never heard it. And as you say, the integrated EQ of the Velo may well be worth paying for.

Edit: OK it does get bleeped out. A club rule for the health of its members, not bias I'm sure!

 

[recruit]

Yep that site is bleeped out for a very good reason.

 

[jackal]

If it doesn't get bleeped out, then http://www.****************.com/ seems to sell Velodyne subs, lol.

I had the Velodyne SPL-1200 II, exact same as the R without the EQ, and didn't think much of it at all for my needs. If I was crossing over very low (below 60hz), didn't mostly listen to music, and really did need a tiny sub, then it may have been a different story. Otherwise, the Jamo A7 which I also had and A/Bed in various rooms, comprehensively outperformed the Velodyne IMO. This was local to you, so shame you didn't ask when I had these as I would have gladly demo'ed them for you!

Don't mistake this as a recommendation for the SVS though, I've never heard it. And as you say, the integrated EQ of the Velo may well be worth paying for.

Edit: OK it does get bleeped out. A club rule for the health of its members, not bias I'm sure!

Hmmm, I was toying with the idea of a second sub to replace the last RELQ400e in mys system. The reason being that the Audyssey on my Denon AVC-A11 only equalises one sub, so that the rel is receiving the equalised signal going to my ASW750 (i.e. that is the one that was calibrated). Whilst this sounds OK, I was thinking that a self equalising sub my be the solution. I think I look towards a second ASW750.

 

[Ian J]

Progressive AV are not only Authorised Velodyne dealers but also forum sponsors.

Liam at Progressive AV will be able to help you

 

[dingwall]

Hmmm, I was toying with the idea of a second sub to replace the last RELQ400e in mys system. The reason being that the Audyssey on my Denon AVC-A11 only equalises one sub, so that the rel is receiving the equalised signal going to my ASW750

Why don't/can't you equalise the sum output of both subwoofers together?

 

[jackal]

I tried but Audyssey doesn't like it.

 

[recruit]

I tried but Audyssey doesn't like it.

Have you thought about adding an Velodyne SMS-1 into you're setup as you could run with both the Denon Room EQ and the Velodynes version, i had very good results when i was running with Meridians EQ and Velodynes.

 

[jackal]

Thanks that's and idea - it will do 3 subs won't it?

 

[Jase]

Personally, I'd sell the Rel, forget the SMS-1 and go for a Velodyne DD sub. Run the EQ on the sub first and then run Audyssey or run Audyssey then tweak to your taste with the Velo EQ (which is what I've done).

 

[recruit]

Thanks that's and idea - it will do 3 subs won't it?

Yes you can run 3 subs off the SMS-1 but it won't EQ them individually but you could use the Denon and then the Velodyne independantly atleast it will give more flexibility and room to play with.

 

[recruit]

Personally, I'd sell the Rel, forget the SMS-1 and go for a Velodyne DD sub. Run the EQ on the sub first and then run Audyssey or run Audyssey then tweak to your taste with the Velo EQ (which is what I've done).

Or then there is that option which i was going to suggest..hey Jase

 

[jackal]

Wasn't looking to spend more than £1K which I've 'allowed' myself for Christmas....(was going to buy a 3930 but....) the DD12 looks a nice product but many mixed reviews regarding VFM. I'll have a think about it. That is the problem with equalisation once you've done it there is no going back - my Rel is switched off most of the time.

 

[dingwall]

Aren't two different co-located subs easier to EQ than one, as peaks and dips are averaged out? And if EQing gets more difficult in different locations, then isn't this due to phase interactions, in which case individually EQing each subwoofer is not the answer anyway?

Not rhetorical Qs!

 

[Isco 3]

You first have to establish where the 1 sub needs to go into the room, in order to get the best response.

You then use 2 subs instead, to create a "virtual" image of that one sub.

Depending on the placement technique you are planning on using, the 2 subs might have to be set at different levels. When you finally EQ the system, you send the same EQ'd signal to the subs.

 

[recruit]

You first have to establish where the 1 sub needs to go into the room, in order to get the best response.

You then use 2 subs instead, to create a "virtual" image of that one sub.

Depending on the placement technique you are planning on using, the 2 subs might have to be set at different levels. When you finally EQ the system, you send the same EQ'd signal to the subs.

Very true ISCO 3 and when implemented correctly you can get excellent results and a much wider and more even response across the listening area !