thosh700 vs optoma72 vs infocus74 vsP900

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  1. spylab

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    or our long test No 5 http://www.avsite.gr/smf/index.php?topic=10427.0

    22 persons

    Player pioneer 989 with DVI switcher(spatz) --Profigold HDMI Cables --same signal in 2 PJs

    Also HD (migratory birds) and clips from C PlusHD

    After ISF calibration the day before

    infocus 76 was not available

    Synopsis
    Optoma 72 is the best, a new class that makes the gap with optoma 79 smaller

    No matter that the new TI Dlp Chip is not a step forward but sideways
    this PJ has mainly as strong points ,sharpness,much light and very good colours.

    the picture was so good that i was forgeting some occasional rainbows (dont forget the side by side projection with the eyes from one screen to the other that makes more rainbows )

    If not for the small zoom and fixed lens (and some rainbows) optoma72 is the new king

    I would say that in the low-medium price category one should put his choice
    PJ side by side with optoma 72 before buy.

    21 of us voted (look site for pictures and tables of votes)

    Soon we will put optoma 72 vs infocus 76

    And by the way in the same room there are many PJs including optoma 79 and infocus 777 that we sometimes use for not loose the perspective of what the better and the best is......

    Regards to all from Athens Greece:hiya:
     
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    Would you be able to summarise this for us in English?
    My head hurts from trying to read the babelfish version.
    Cheers
     
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    I wish i could write in english with more ease

    from the D 5 LCDs as best we named pany 900
    (we have not seen sony 60 at all )

    from the 720 DLPs (low end) as best optoma 72

    In migratory birds HD in some sunset or sunrise scenes we saw colours in the
    clouds(with optoma) where no other pj could show colours (even infocus 76 that we tested next day)

    In dvd chapter 2 of Van Helsing optoma 72 and infocus 76 had the best performance and i dare say very close to optoma 79

    After Gladiator HD i can swear we had drops of blood and dust on us ;)

    But really if not for the rainbows and some motion dithering (they had to show
    me what it is to see it) Dlps have better overall picture

    At the start of gladiator superbit DVD (the famous at least for us forest scene) (far forest) we could see the most depth with dlps but pany was ok too.A bit later in the wagon the sculpure wood in backgrount was very very good with optoma-infocus very similar with optoma 79
    (in HD we could see the hill)

    were there was vivid greens and blues optoma72 had a punchier picture
    obviously better (DTHD Praying mantis - WMV living sea - PBS-HD.Nature.TheQueenofTrees ) you mast see it to believe it.

    Generally infocus has a very smooth filmlike picture and where there are not
    bright colours similar with optoma maybe a bit more <sweet>

    By the way rainbows n HD are much less visible.........

    If someone can find a pany with no VB no much unevevvess in white
    will have a very good picture.

    Bottom line: low end 720 pJs mast be put side by side with optoma-infocus
    before buy

    And a will add that generaly (i have the impression) there is some more rainbowfobia that rainbows justify .
     
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    Thanks for that - much appreciated.
    I agree about rainbows now, although I still find the motion artefacts a problem - were the Optoma and Infocus PJs any better than the others in this regard?
    Cheers
     
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    what do you mean < motion artefacts> ? can you clarify a bit?
     
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    Motion dithering - inherent to single-chip dlps - some show it worse than others, but the front runners in this price category still showed it in my demos.
    I was hoping the Sim2 1080 wouldn't show it, but the version I saw at Bristol had so many motion problems that there was no way I could look for it. I'm keen to see a final version.
     
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    yes there was some motion dithering, but really i cant think of them as
    a problem but more as a nuisance at some scenes (like at the neck of the black gladiator -close shot- at the training before first battle)
    But i mast add that i have not so trained eyes.........
     

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