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Thinking of getting EOS 350D...

Discussion in 'Photography Forums' started by Simebaby, Jun 23, 2005.

  1. Simebaby

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    As title - I'm thinking the time is right to make the jump to dSLR (moving from a Sony DSC-V3) - just wondered what people's opinion of the camara was (I know it's an entry level model, but I wanted to start fairly small if you see what I mean).

    Also, does anyone know if Jessops still do web price matching in store (as mentioned in the sticky)?

    TIA

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  2. MarkE19

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    If this is going to be your first SLR then I doubt the fact that the 350d is an entry level dslr wont matter to you as the pictures you can get from it will be excellent. If you had used other dslr's then you might find it a bit limited in performance, but only in a direct comparison to higher end cameras.

    My 350d with the kit lens was pricematched by Jessops so I only payed £509 for it which is an excellent price. They will however only pricematch against UK bassed web sites so not Pixmania, 7dayshop etc.

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  3. Iain Shields

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    I'm pretty much in the same boat as you mate, allthough I've allready decided to ahead and get the EOS 350D due to the many great reviews and also the views of people on these forums.

    Simply type 350 into the "search this forum" search box to get quite a few threads regarding this camera, along with a few pictures taken with it posted by people who own it :smashin:

    The only problems people seem to have with it is it's handling as it's a very small camera (in dslr terms). I've small hands so this dosnt bother me at all, and a quick call in at Dixons to have a feel of it confirmed this... I'd advise you to do the same if you havn't allready.

    The other problem that some have reported is a slight softness to the pictures straight out of the camera, you will possibly need to adjust the camera's sharpness levels in the camera menu to suit your tastes and also do a bit of sharpening to the pictures in Photoshop or something simular. This is all a mute point really IMHO as most other DSLR cameras require sharpening to the pictures they produce (it's not just the 350D). I only mention it as you say your moving up from a point-and-shoot camera which would sharpen it's own pictures quite a bit by itself and might think something's wrong with your new camera :D

    As far as I know most Jessops still try and price match other UK websites, take a webpage print out of the "in stock" item you want into your local store and see what they say. I've heard of some getting what they want, some getting turned down and some getting a close match that they were happy enough with, I guess it depends on each store... try it, they can only say no!

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  4. Iain Shields

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    That is an excellent price mate, what website/shop did you get it price matched with? If I can get it for that price I'll get mine tomorrow :thumbsup:

    Regards,
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    :oops: Sorry to get your hopes up, but it was £609 not £509 - I must learn to check my typing before submitting the post :devil:

    But £609 is stil an very good price and was matched against This web site.

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  6. Iain Shields

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    LOL You had me going there :eek:

    In that case I think I'll stick with my origonal plan and go for the body only camera and put the rest towards some better glass ;)

    Regards,
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    I have nothing but praise for the 350D. Have taken 1000s of shots since buying one few months back and am really happy with its performance. I'm booked into shoot 7 wedding this summer and have no hesitations in using it.

    Incidentally regarding the size of it - I was looking at upgrading an old D30 the other day, tried a second hand 20D and a 1D they both felt overly bulky (the 1d more so obviously). Guess i'd got used to the small size more than i realised. And no, i dont have dwarf-size hands.
     
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    Any potential D-SLR owner spending under £1k owes it to themselves to try the 350D, the Nikon D70/70s, the Pentax *st DS and the Konica Minolta Dynnax 7D.

    All are excellent, with the 350D and D70 being the best-sellers - the latter has just been replaced by the D70s (a fairly pointless upgrade), and people are still getting the D70 for £550 after cashback (this includes the very good Nikkor 18-70mm kit lens which retails at £250 on its own).

    Try all of these, hold them and shoot with them. Buy the one you prefer to handle and use, not the one that's the newest, or best looking, or has more MP, or has more review wins under its belt.

    I would also expect you to be ready for the fact that many DSLR owners find themselves initially disappointed with images as they appear out of the camera, especially when shooting RAW. This is entirely normal, for instance the lowpass filter design inherent with a DSLR makes post-processing sharpening almost mandatory. Canon's typically look more punchy than Nikon's on this front, and the D70 is a camera that will need work on it's images in post-processing. I shoot RAW 100% and typically only adjust for levels where required, saturation and sharpening.

    I've borrowed this advice from a friend of mine, and it's a lot of sense IMO:

    " bear in mind that one of the primary reasons for buying an SLR, is the fact that you are buying into a very flexible system tool. Yes you will get better quality in general than a P&S, but if you have no intention of ever expanding further, it may not be the most appropriate tool for you.

    Some of the high end P&S cameras now, are offering extremely versatile optical zoom lens, of v.high quality. The results they can produce in the right hands can be almost technically as good as a DSLR will give you. Where they fall down against a system camera, is the lack of extreme wide-angle, or extreme telephoto lenses. You also cannot use other specialist items like tilt and shift, or macro lenses. However, if you will only ever infrequently/never require (or be able to afford) that kind of lens, the high end P&S can often be a better and more usable alternative.

    It is often said that the best camera, is the one that you will take with you. Owning an SLR system can often be a "Challenge" in that regard, due to the inevitable panoply of kit you will wish to take with you!

    I don't say any of the above to try and put you off - but perhaps for others thinking about venturing into SLR'dom, it might help give a different perspective on what it means to own one. As you can see from my sig, I'm firmly in the lug a huge bag around brigade - but its not for everyone!"
     
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    Excellent camera. I recommend investing in the battery grip and an extra battery - this makes the camera much more comfortable to hold, especially for portrait because of the extra buttons and wheel, and it just runs and runs and runs and runs and... you get the idea.
     
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    Hi Everyone,

    I was thinking of getting a dSLR too and the 350d is high up on my list mainly because I have an old EOS 10 35mm with two good Canon lenses

    I think the lenses should work with the 350D, but can anyone confirm this ?
     
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    The EOS 10 is an EF fit so the lenses, if they are Canon, should work with absolutely no problems. It's usually only the third party lenses that have compatability issues.
     
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    Having owned a Canon 300D & borrowed a Nikon D70, I preferred D70 due to build quality, but especially because of std 18-70mm lens quality. With the cracking deals on D70 with this lens, it would be my preference over 350D with inferior std lens, for similar money.
     
  13. Simebaby

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    Thanks to everyone for the replies - I'm going to have a pop into jessops tomorrow if I get time, and have a play (and see if they'll do interest free credit! ;) )
     
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    Even though I'm now a confirmed Canon kinda guy I think the current pricing of the Nikon and its general handling gives an edge over the 350. I nearly bought one in preference to the 350, which was at the time my first choice, when I got my first DSLR a few months ago, but then decided price/performance of the 300D was most competitive and it felt better in hand to use.

    Unless you MUST have the latest 'thing' I advise 'feeling up' all three (missus!) and then choosing which you like using most, seems most logical to use and is just right in the hand. The Nikon lens offers an excellent range tho' I can't comment on quality. If it worth £250 (really worth it rather than costing that!) then it seems a great starter kit.

    So, lots of excellent and objective advice in this thread and the choice should be easy if you go by instinct. Don't be influenced by sales talk in the shop: it's rarely objective and often ignorant ... though there are exceptions to that of course. All three are superb and you will use and enjoy the one that just feels right to YOU! You can't make a bad choice.
     
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    Otherwise get an Egg Card - you get 0% interest until 1st December 2005 and 5% off a Currys (of all places)
    Which by my calculations makes the Lens Kit £580.44 and the body only £512.05 - I've not seen a better price (doesn't mean that there isn't one though.....)
     
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    Ha, ha ... a challenge :cool:

    How about apply for the Egg Card via greasypalm.com and then get £7.25 Cashback.
     
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    If you can afford one - get one! I managed to get Jessops down to £618 as they price matched Amazon.co.uk - and I prefer to have a 'bricks & morter' dealer to deal with if things go wrong - also building a relationship with your local store isn't always a bad thing if you want free advice/deals etc. If you're an EOS film camera user then this is the logical upgrade for you, especially if you have EF lenses and a Speedlite flash. I have an EOS 300 (film) and found the 'conversion' very easy to live with. I also have a Minolta DiMage 7i which is good, but not good enough for what I want. The 350D is sooo much better than the 7i, it's on a different planet. As for the size issue (oh err missus!) I'm 6'1" and have big hands and I don't find the 350D a problem at all - the extra grip/battery pack is an expensive option, but it is an option - however unless you have hands like a bunch of banana's I really don't think you'll have too much trouble. Why not try one for size in Jessops? Other than that, the camera is superb, I've heard it described on here as an 'entry' level camera and a bit 'basic' - all I can say is, however thinks that must already be a very highly advanced user who would be better off looking at a 1Ds II or similar, but as the price differential between the two camera's is about £5.5k, I think I'll stick to my 350D thank you very much. :thumbsup:
     

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