Theydon's Perpetual Build (AKA Triggers Broom) & LAN Sessions

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  1. Stockholm

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    Theydon, isn't their a number of software packages out there than can retrieve data from broken HDDs?

    Edit - I guess most of them require the HDD to actually work but have corrupted data/sectors or something.

    Found this...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how-to/tips/4294038

    With mechanical failures it seems that firms charge crazy amounts to recover your data. Why?

    This seems like a good website and company. Lots of handy info on the different types of failures and how to recover from them. They also offer retrieval services.

    http://www.dataclinic.co.uk/hard-disk-failures.htm
     
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    I RMA'd a Samsung the other day with Seagate and the whole process took no more then 7days. Really impressed with their service.
     
  3. Theydon Bois

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    Yep, I downloaded the Seagate one (linked from Samsung) but the search does not complete while the harddrive is plugged in, and will only resolve if the hard drive is turned off.

    Also, Disk Management refuses to show any data while the drive is plugged in, and the whole PC slows down and the click click click is bloody annoying. :D

    I will try a Hiren via USB with the hard drive in its caddie and see if there disk tools can spot it though.
     
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    AFAIK the tools to do it are very expensive and it can be quite a long and tedious task. I would imagine that there is also the fact that for important things people will pay a fair bit.

    That's good to hear though I've no idea if my [in warranty] F3 will count as faulty.
     
  5. Theydon Bois

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    Nah, such is life, as I mention, this is my first dead drive (related to me specifically and my data) so I think I have been ahead of the program so far. The only trouble is as drives become bigger and bigger, you can only potentially lose more and more data from it.

    I will grab another Sammy next month - £95 for an F4 2TB at Aria, maybe they will drop a little by then. I think I have had 9 or 10 Sammy Spinpoints since my first purchase, a 250Gb version, so I dont think this will put my off buying them in the future.
     
  6. Stockholm

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    Thanks SniperAsh. Got a lot of good info from you today! :smashin:

    Dataclinic seem to have a few good testimonials out there from satisfied customers, but it is hard to find out how much they charge. I'm guessing it will be more than £500 :(
     
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    Now spending time collating all the data I have found on numerous USB hard drives and my temp folder. Oh the joys of tidying and consolidating data on a PC.
     
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    Wack it in a sealed sandwhich bag and wack it in the freezer overnight, not a permanent fix but if it works it may get the disc to spin up fully again so you can transfer the remaining stuff you Havnt backed up! It's worth a shot as its worked for me before!
     
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    What's the thinking behind doing that mate?
    I know for some equipment like xboxes you allow them to heat up and "re-solder" their dry joints on the pcb and therefore making them work again.

    But what's the theory behind cooling hard drives down?
     
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    I can't actually remember tbh but I'm sure theres stuff on the net about it. I don't think I ever really got why but I tried it and it worked- on a couple of drives Aswell. I guess it depends what the fault is but I had similar issues- the drive just sounding like it couldn't spin to any real rpm and just clicking away (almost like an engine just turning over).

    Abit of time in the freezer and it spun up to full speed a couple of times (I shut down not expecting it to fire again but did) before dieing again

    Edit some links

    http://www.datarecoverypros.com/hard-drive-recovery-freeze.html

    http://m.lifehacker.com/5515337/save-a-failed-hard-drive-in-your-freezer-redux
     
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    That's brought back some memories Grangey. I had a HDD that was mechanically failing and was clicking whenever I tried to boot it up. I put it in a number of ziploc bags and put it in the freezer for 24 hours. Didn't let it come back to room temp before trying it out - and it worked! Was able to get some data off of it before shutting it down for good.

    It's definitely worth trying that Theydon.

    Save a Failed Hard Drive in Your Freezer, Redux

    Ha, the pic of the HDD in that article is identical to the one that failed on me! Must be common to the brand.

    Edit - Oops! Just seen your link to the same article Grangey. Nvm.

    Edit 2 - What is up with the suggestions on the first website in your link - drop the HDD on the ground or hit it to fix it! :eek:
     
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    Nope- don't let it go back to room temp, connect that badboy up ASAP! :)
     
  13. Theydon Bois

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    Nothing to lose, so in it goes. I will give it a good 16hrs or so, and check it tomorrow when home from work. :smashin:
     
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    Let us know what happens :thumbsup:
     
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    Strangely my Sammy that failed was also a 1TB F3. Same 'tick, tick' that mine died of too.
     
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    I sense a pattern here :(

    I may see if I can get a recording of what mine does and see if I can contact anyone to find out if it's RMA-able.
     
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    Data backed up first before you take your pc to the recording studio :)
     
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    Oh bugger... (looks at sig) :( :rolleyes:
     
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    Ive also got the Sammy 1TB and have seen a friends one fail- however Im walking on the tight side at the moment as for me I COULD double my capacity and have my stuff mirrored, but at the same time the cost of that doesnt seem very effective (perticularly at the moment) not to mention that any drive can fail so theres nothing to stop my backup drive failing at the same time lol.
     
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    Over the last 7? years I have bought the following Samsung drives for my use in either Main PC or my HTPC:

    • Spinpoint 250
    • Spinpoint 320
    • Spinpoint 500 (or a 400, cant remember)
    • Spintpoint 750
    • F1 1Tb x 2
    • F3 1Tb x 2
    • F4 2Tb x 1

    The 750 onwards are still in use, and the 500 may be in a PC I sold off ages ago. One of the F1's is the one I have a problem with.
     
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    So, what happened to the Bois drive of goodies after 16 hours in the fridge?

    • No clicking, but Windows would not see the drive at all.
    • I waited a few minutes and tried again, and windows say it, but wanted to format it.
    • There was no clicking at all.
    • Various Hiren's recovery programs could see the drive and a whole heap of files in that soul destroying long list of 8.3 naming and random hexadecimal characters.
    • Booted into Hirens, and after trying a few programs, Disk Genius actually not only could see the drive, but put it back into order :D
    • Disk Genius says it has saved the partition, but doesnt :(
    • Boot back into Windows and windows still wants to format it. No click though
    • Ran DG in Windows, and found that I could export files from within the partition.
    • Started exporting files, thankfully this drive had less files on it that I need compared to the backup I had from last year.
    • Some files are corrupted (CRC errors) but things are looking ok
    • No clicking still, some 2 hours after I got it out the fridge

    Phew. And I dont mention the bit where I got up to grab a coffee and kicked the hard drive across the floor. Oh wait.....:blush:
     
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    strange windows wanted to format it...

    but still

    cant beat the freezer trick ;) youre welcome lol

    Hope you managed to get everything you need off it :)
     
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    Looks like I cancelled a recovery option earlier, thinking I may have been doing the wrong drive (never used Disk Genius before).

    After stopping panicking, I started the process again and am currently recovering more files now, and looks like its half way through at the hour mark, finding 24k files.

    Weird day, as today I managed to get my mates hard drive with his Time Machine backups to work - the portable drive casing was broken (and physical connection between drive and usb port), but not the drive itself, so I could restore a time machine backup of his User folder and get all his kids pics back :smashin:
     
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    Productive day then! :thumbsup:
     
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    Three and a half hours later, and 40k+ files recovered and still within the file structure (although only within Disk Genius).

    Setting up some files to copy now - I lost all my Skyrim mods as well and all the mods and save games that I backup, so glad they are accessible.
     
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    Considering you could have ended up with nothing that's pretty impressive
     
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    I have over 10TB of data on multiple hdds, there's simply no way I can back all that up...
     
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    Of course there is ;)
     
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    Yep, it does take ages though - Disk Genius can take more than an hour to even start the copy process, which itself not quick. I am not complaining, but it does seem like I was sitting as usual watching a little blue bar do nothing at all until gone 1am last night :D

    I will continue the process toinight, but its one of those things where you think "oh noes!" and then find that although some things are missing, you have nearly everything so its not quite so bad. Annoying, but not rage inducing.

    I think that my old saves are all gone though (not that I need them really and its possible that nothing has changed from August 2011 backup) and all the mods I had for Games are all gone as well - I will just have to check my Skyrim NMM to double check what I had - there only backups after all as the mods are already installed.

    Until Hard drives grow on bushes and trees, no, not really :D
     
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    Im a little disappointed at how slow the HDD industry is moving. By now we should have 5TB or even 10TB single HDDs. (is a petabyte disk nothing more than a dream?)

    I should be able to get all my stuff onto 1 HDD instead of of so many 1TB/2TB disks.

    Especially with us all "backing up" our Blu Rays! :D
     

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