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Discussion in 'General Video Gaming Chat' started by spidermanalf, Dec 19, 2004.

  1. spidermanalf

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    Not that I condone piracy, but both suprnova.org and torrentbits.org have shut themselves down this weekend!
     
  2. RL123

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    Brilliant! :)

    The sooner games piracy is stopped, the better it is for the industry and gamers, IMO
     
  3. H4r7y

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    wow, im surprised that these sites have closed down really. maybe they were forced to close?
     
  4. Sinzer

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    There was a torrent site in Scandanavia that got jackbooted, since then the rest have been shutting down.
     
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    Yep two BIG bit torrent sites gone, something big has obviously happened in a legal sense for this to happen.
     
  6. Miyazaki

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    Doesn't make much difference TBH. Something else will come along to fill the void.

    Once the gaming industry realise the dire need and huge market for downloadable games, at a cheaper price (easily acheivable through not selling to shops, or manufacturing the gaming material such as manuals and discs) piracy will diminish.
     
  7. captaineyecatch

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    Suprnova is coming back....plus many other torrent sites are fighting the MPAA Lokitorrent has already started to defend its case details here . As for the finnish torrent site that got raided have a read at this for some interesting views Here
     
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    Out of interest, how have the Usenet Newsgroups survived all this time?
     
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    I think most of the games on there have trickled down to the regular P2P networks like kazaa anyway.
     
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    whilst there is high speed internet, its almost impossible stopping it.

    suprnova, is bringing out exteem, which makes everyone a tracker, so its almost indistructible.
     
  11. captaineyecatch

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    More bad news for P2P ...
    FirstSource is what its called... details from Mi2n.com
    BayTSP, a leading provider of online intellectual property monitoring and compliance systems, announced FirstSource, an automated system that identifies the first users to upload copyright- or trademark-protected content to the eDonkey and Bit Torrent peer-to-peer (P2P) networks.

    Identifying the first individuals who upload illegal content allows companies to track all subsequent users who download and share a particular file. Initial tests of the FirstSource service indicate that several thousand copies of a movie available for download on the eDonkey and Bit Torrent networks can be traced back to the initial uploaded file.

    "Pirated copies of movies and software typically appear online within hours of release," said Mark Ishikawa, CEO of BayTSP. "Identifying and taking action against the first uploaders can greatly slow the distribution of illegally-obtained intellectual property and might make users think twice before doing it."

    EDonkey and Bit Torrent are two of the most popular file sharing networks and use a technique called swarming that allows users to download slices of a file - like a pirated movie or software application - from multiple other users simultaneously. As users download a file, they also share the portions they've already received.

    FirstSource monitors for the first uploads of a client's intellectual property to the eDonkey and Bit Torrent networks. When the system spots a file name matching the client's content, it initiates a download to confirm that the file is what it appears to be. Once the content is validated, the system captures the IP (Internet Protocol) address and identifying information of other users downloading and sharing the pirated material.

    The system also logs which portions of the file that each user shares. This data is stored in an infringement database as evidence in the event the client decides to pursue litigation against the file sharers.

    Clients can monitor the system via a Web-based interface and have the option of automatically or manually issuing Digital Millennium Copyright Act-compliant take down notices, even while the downloads are still in progress.



    More info here
     
  12. Miyazaki

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    a simple solution to that...

    Peer Guardian! :thumbsup:
     
  13. captaineyecatch

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    Not really Peer Guardian is pretty poor - Protowall is better but none are 100% secure.
     
  14. Miyazaki

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    Cheers for that, never heard of protowall. :thumbsup:

    Besides it is just as illegal for these companies to track you down as it is to download the original content anyway, so the NRAA and the MPAA and whoever else can't justify their moral high ground can they really?!
     
  15. captaineyecatch

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    Nope they can track you down very easily. With the Digital Millennium Copyright Act they can do a hell of a lot - although it is usa law i believe the UK has signed up to it. As for them catching you i recieved a copyright infringement notice from MGM USA because i was dloading a Bit torrent file of some Stargate Atlantis episode - i was running a (fully upto date block list on it) Peer guardian. Yet they still managed to track me. Thankfully my ISP isnt bothered aslong as i dont do it again which i wont as its on Sky now :)
     
  16. MrBlofeldt

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    I think the Usenet groups will probably survive for now, whenever you see disussions about music/movie/game piracy, it's always about P2P networks, it would seem it's easier to catch people out, because you can see a persons shared drives.... well, you all know how P2P networks work.

    I think part of the problem with catching out newsgroups is down to two things, firstly identifying the people up/down loading meterial and secondly the retention time on the servers, this can be as long as a month or as short as a few hours, it maybe that becuase of this retention time any suspect material is removed and thus any evidence of wrong doing has been erased...


    ... or it could be that the usenet groups haven't yet come under the eye of software/music/movie companies yet !
     
  17. Wasabi

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    Good news regarding suprnova

    http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/11263

    "While many BitTorrent fans have been disappointed by the closure of SuperNova's torrent listings, their new BitTorrent replacement client eXeem has now reached its beta stage, ready for public testing. BitTorrent has a major weakness in that it required centralised sites to host the database of torrents, which makes it very vulnerable to being attacked by the entertainment industries. eXeem on the other hand, is designed to offer the decentralised capabilities of other P2P software while still using the same efficient large file distribution methods of BitTorrent."

    More in the article.

    Wasabi
     

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