Theta Carmen

lowrider

Standard Member
I thought I shouldnt ask this on the Arcam forum... :rolleyes:

Should I replace my FMJ DV27 with a Theta Carmen... :confused:

This way I will join the TAG crowd in the transport bandwagon, I dont need DACs, SACD, DVD-Audio, or progressive scan, but I love the SDI option of the Theta... :smashin:
 

Thunder

Active Member
Is it a home grown design Antonio or is it somebody else's in a different box with a few tweaks etc? :)
 

alexs2

Distinguished Member
Hi Antonio...I think you've probably answered your own question....if the Carmen is available at a good price,then it would certainly be a superb transport to buy,and the build of Theta equipment has always been excellent.

Downside as you've noted,is the lack of anything other than DVD-V(DD and DTS incl) and CD...but if you don't need them,it would go rather nicely with the rest of your gear.... :devil:
 

lowrider

Standard Member
Someone else´s design might be better than home grown´s, when home colapses... :oops:
 

alexs2

Distinguished Member
lowrider said:
Someone else´s design might be better than home grown´s, when home colapses... :oops:

More likely wallet collapsing than home!.....the designs based on the Pioneer transports seem to be doing very well in the review stakes currently(Townshend etc),but as far as I know,Theta have always developed and used their own,maybe based around a transport mechanism from elsewhere,but the electronics etc have been their own,and very well made and thought out.
 

lowrider

Standard Member
I know, I was just beeing sarcastic back to Thunder... ;)
 

Thunder

Active Member
Why were you being sarcastic :confused: I just wanted to know :(
 

lowrider

Standard Member
Sure Thunder... :devil:
 

Thunder

Active Member
Whatever :rolleyes:
 

lowrider

Standard Member
Maybe I misunderstood you... :rolleyes:

It is a Pioneer transport + whatever, even the punny remote is Pioneer, then they add very good, I hope, power supplies, 14 of them, jitter control, etc...
 

GrahamMG

Well-known Member
How do they syncronise to a master clock?
 

lowrider

Standard Member
Good question... :rolleyes:

Probably like most others ;) , there is also a proprietary digital output to use with their processors and DACs, wich I obviously wont use with the Krell...

More from their marketing data:
In addition, all data is buffered, re-clocked, corrected for timing errors, and realigned before being output
 

GrahamMG

Well-known Member
I think you will find all CD players do that :D

I was pointing out that there should be a master clock that all the other clocks are referenced to ideally.....

I'm curious why TAG chose a Sanyo mech and not the Pioneer, was it a "fit" thing or a performance releated decision? Udo? I have tried several times to get a direct DVD32R/Linn unidisk listening session, no-one seems that keen, I did do a basic A/B a while back and found the CD ability of the TAG to be superior, mechanism or electronics make a difference, not sure which though......
 

Dr Udo Zucker

Active Member
GrahamMG said:
I think you will find all CD players do that :D

I was pointing out that there should be a master clock that all the other clocks are referenced to ideally.....

I'm curious why TAG chose a Sanyo mech and not the Pioneer, was it a "fit" thing or a performance releated decision? Udo? I have tried several times to get a direct DVD32R/Linn unidisk listening session, no-one seems that keen, I did do a basic A/B a while back and found the CD ability of the TAG to be superior, mechanism or electronics make a difference, not sure which though......

Hi, the choice of transports is heavily restricted by those supported by the chosen MPEG decoder. In old-TMA's DVD32R case, it was essential to find a transport which could be built into the DVD32R's suspended sub-chassis AND was suitable to add the TAG Sync Link.

However, let's not forget, the transport defines mainly the ability to read different disc formats, some allow for more than others, see e.g. Takaya vs. Sanyo. Here the Sanyo scores much better.

What makes much more difference, for replay of CDs and DVDs is the quality of the laser servo, and here we talk less about its ability to "follow" the data, then its crosstalk into other signals, particularly grounds and supplies. Here the Sanyo is very similar to the Takaya.

And to take yet another example: Linn Unidisk. Here the only available transport is one from Sony. The designers have no other choice as the ESS MPEG Decoder just supports that one (if you want SACD). You could use the Sanyo if you dropped SACD.
 

GrahamMG

Well-known Member
Interesting as usual.
I was under the impression that the LINN used a Pioneer based deck, does this mean that the Pioneer uses a SONY mech? Somehow I can't see that being the case but....
 

lowrider

Standard Member
They sent me a dented unit that didnt work properly, clicking all the time during play, not to mention that it would sometimes close the drawer alone, even crunched one of my premium CDs... :(

Also the remote wasnt the same as on the manual...

But the sound was beautiful, much more dynamic that my DV27, and piano sounded perfect... :suicide:
 

lowrider

Standard Member
All is well that ends well, at least for the time being... :cool:

I got one David II from Audiogon, mint condition, 220 volts, multi-region, 30% cheaper than the Carmen demo I was getting from the dealer here in Portugal...

The David II is upper range, 50% more expensive new, version II, more recent, works and no dents... :rolleyes:

Comparing with the Arcam FMJ DV27, the sound is livelier, I prefer the timbre, particularly with piano, and the image is a little softer, but with nice colour...
 

The latest video from AVForums

Star Wars Andor, Woman King, more Star Trek 4K, Rings of Power & the latest TV, movies & 4K releases
Subscribe to our YouTube channel

Full fat HDMI teeshirts

Support AVForums with Patreon

Top Bottom