Thermal paste on Athlon 64's

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  1. Uridium

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    Planning to OC my 3500 Venice shortly so just trying to get it running as cool as possible before hand but I keep reading conflicting opinons on different websites about the best way to apply thermal paste on Athlon 64's.

    Some websites recommend spreading the paste nice and thin across the whole CPU then I read on another website to only apply a small blob in the very centre and let the pressure of the Heatsink spread it.

    http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm


    I've always used the first method in the past but just wondered what popular opinion found to be the best.
     
  2. semiskimmed

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    use the 2nd.
    as i have first hand experience of putting it all over my cpu and creating a suction thing with the cpu and the heatsink, its like it at the moment and im dreading the day when i have to remove it as it will rip straight out the socket and be a PITA to get the cpu off without bending the pins.
    put a small dab in the centre of the cpu and the heatsink will move it out and around and it doesnt need to cover everywhere as nothing will short out. but i can deffinately say that the arctic silver stuff does work a treat once youve left it for a few weeks to 'settle in'. it took about 3-4 degrees off my temp at idle.
     
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    I concur with semiskimmed. A small blob in the centre of the CPU heatsink is all that is needed - the size of about 1 small grain of rice.

    The actual core of the chip is very small and located in the centre of the package, that is what needs to be covered, not the entire heatsink.

    The main purpose of the paste is to fill any imperfections in the two surfaces of the cooler face and CPU heatsink, forming a path for heat to transfer over. Too thick a layer of paste can be counterproductive.

    Follow the artic silver instructions.
     
  4. Uridium

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    Thanks guys.

    Installed new cooler using the "Blob" method; CPU running nice and cool at 30 on idle and only got up as far as 41 running FEAR.

    BTW using an Artic Silencer 64 TC heatsink, absolute bargain for a tenner, very very quiet and appears to cool effectively. Why spend more!

    Now to start tweaking the chip!

    Anyone else on here running an OC'ed Venice? if so how high have you got it?
     
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    What has a ac motor with a fan on it ever been expensive? If you spend more than £5 you are being ripped off. They couldn't be easier to make. I am getting my year 11 class to make them on wednesday next week, and if they can do it, anyone can! :D
     
  6. Uridium

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    The HUGE heatsink, mesh sleeved cabling, spare CPU mounting socket and themal control make it easily worth the £10. and they throw in a 6yr warranty!

    Know what you mean about the price of some of the coolers around now though. The Akasa one I was using before was a big pile of tat.:thumbsdow
     
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    me, me!
    lol, ive only got mine at 2400mhz though right now. thats with a little more voltage but its running 1:1 i dont like using dividers and tbh its as much performance as i need right now. might have to explore a bit more though when i fit my new gfx card. dont want any bottlenecks :smashin:
     
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    Arctic Silver paste + Arctic Freezer 64 Heat-sink and fan=winning combination:thumbsup:
     
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    2640MHZ got it to 2.7 something but it would crash during a game:mad:

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    is that on air worm?
     
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    nice, how did you find the change in temps? i want to up the voltage on my cpu to try and get a bit higher, but i dont want a mega change in temps. did you see a masive increase at all?
     
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    Saw an increase of about 4-5degrees celsius
     
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    idle or with load?
     
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    IDLE, can't remeber what it used to run at under load so can't comment on the increase though when i played F.E.A.R for about 3/4hours CPU was around the mid 40's. So that should be around the highest it gets to.
     
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    yeah mine hits about 41c under load now so that sounds reasonable.
    cheers mate
    :)
     
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    new gfx card there semi???

    Nice work - improvement on the 7800GT?? Did you sell that??

    :oops: off topic i know!
     
  18. Uridium

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    The whole topic is now off topic but doesn't matter as original question done and dusted.:smashin:

    Note for Mods:
    Can topic please be renamed to Overclocking Venice 3500+?
     
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    heh, yeah i went for it. ive missed the IQ from ATi cards.Battlefield 2 is looking out of this world :D not that it looked bad on the 7800gt mind, but it just looks a bit crisper now. :smashin:
    i sold the 7800gt and ive not yet ran any benchies to see or enabled the fps display on any games but when i do ill get back here with the results
     
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    nice one - out of interest how much did you get for your 7800GT??

    Tempted to either get another one to SLI my system or sell and get one of either 1800/1900 or 7900 of some sort after researching them further.
     
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    i got £160 for it which isnt too bad if you think that a 7900gt (7800gtx performance) is now £199 brand new.
     
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    bfg OC 7800GT 3dmark06 =3494 X1800XT 06 =3994
    bfg OC 7800GT 3dmark05 =7000 X1800XT 05 =9137

    i thought id get a bit more in 06 but quite happy with the 05 score
     
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    I got the 3000+ running at 2.4 gig on water. The only problems are the low multiplier (*9) :thumbsdow and the motherboard (abit av8) HT bus wont go above 270 with much stability :(

    My temps are silly as abit 'changed' the way the temps are read so mine runs 14c idle and about 24c under load with 6*12cm fans at 5v silent. I use one of these:
    http://www.thermochill.com/he1203.php
    :devil:
     
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    nice!
    nothing like a triple rad :smashin:
    whats your HTT multi on then 3 or 4?
     

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