There is no political party I can vote for

richp007

Distinguished Member
The question of leaving the EU was always a valid one, whether anyone liked it or not.

What's followed however is just a sh*tshow of ineptitude that can only be pinned on this government.

There is little point nor value in treading it's historical footpath anymore.
 

niceguy1966

Distinguished Member
It also depends on whether you have moral standards.
Neither tactical voting nor voting for a no-hope party that better reflects your views has the moral high-ground.

I'd say throwing your vote away and allowing a party you hate into power was the least moral outcome, but others would argue the opposite.
 

4loco

Well-known Member
Hi all,

(Sorry, I have gone a bit, but having never put pen to paper regarding my feelings of our political system etc. It doesn’t really flow, but it’s late, I’ve had a drink and it is what it is).

Can anybody recommend a party that I can vote for, which will, without question, address, act upon and fulfil the not so unreasonable criteria below ? (These are my primary concerns).

  • Poverty
  • Addressing/Implementing concrete resources and measures to ensure the rightful and appropriate care for our;
    • Children
    • Elderly
    • Disabled
    • Sick
    • Homeless
    • Mental health
    • Etc.
    • Government managed, NOT by money making, private agencies, at the expense of the people).
  • A major wage review/ increase for our responsible;
    • Nurses
    • Medics
    • Ambulance staff
    • Firefighters
    • Police
    • Carers
    • Social workers
    • Etc.
  • More investment into;
    • Housing
    • Hospitals
    • Schools
    • Nurseries
    • Care homes
This list is, by far, not exhaustive.

People will obviously ask - where will the money come from ? Well here are a couple of possibilities;

The wealth of our Country is unevenly distributed, something like the top 10% own 50% of the wealth. There are obvious opportunities to increase the tax of these very rich. They have made fortunes taking from society, so it is only right and proper for them to contibute back into it, therefore creating a more fairer, and equal society, that I would imagine, is what the majority of people here want.
This has never changed

I am a republican and believe that our life blood should be stopped, from being sucked and drained by the richest family in the world. This, by itself, would address all and more of the above.
This has never changed.

A couple of other points 😊

I watched question time the other night, first time in years, all the parties were still trying to score points, still giving false promises, the same old repetitive hot air.
This has never changed.

Why are we so reliant on the thousands and thousands of charities ?
What would it be like without them ?
Bless their hearts.

Our voting system does not represent a true indication of the electorate’s choice.
A fairer and much more accurate system should be implemented, namely P.R.

I do know what people gave, in order to give us the right to vote, but…. I cannot, as, at the moment, I only see all parties representing the well off, the bureaucrats, the gentry and those in the higher echelons of society.

Labour for me, was the party of choice, never any other, but now they are a shadow of their former selves. They have lost their direction, lost what they originally stood for, their roots have been forgotten and eroded. They are, in no way, worthy of standing amongst the men and woman, who founded the Labour party. It was founded to stop suffering, to improve conditions, fairer pay and the human rights of the working people. They had their principles, fought with passion, for a more fairer, equal society. What do we have now ? A tory party MK2.
Most elections talk about the many low turnouts. Perhaps, like me, these people that decline to vote, have become totally disillusioned. Why bother, when there is no party that supports your ideologies.

Hear from you soon, I’ve no doubt 😊
You are a person of principle.
You could vote based on your principles. Nothing wrong with that.

If you want things to improve, that might require voting for the least worst option for making the future better (or at least making it less worse) - but it has to be a Party that has a chance of making a difference.
If you look at it that way, then you can find a Party to vote for.
 

jjwales

Well-known Member
It depends if you want to make a real change to the country, or just do something totally pointless.
It may not be something you agree with, but it is not "totally pointless" to vote for the party you most believe in. It is a matter of exercising your democratic rights and showing your support for that party.
 

niceguy1966

Distinguished Member
It may not be something you agree with, but it is not "totally pointless" to vote for the party you most believe in. It is a matter of exercising your democratic rights and showing your support for that party.
But which achieves nothing of substance.
 

richp007

Distinguished Member
It may not be something you agree with, but it is not "totally pointless" to vote for the party you most believe in. It is a matter of exercising your democratic rights and showing your support for that party.

It depends what you define "totally pointless" as being.

If I vote for Count Binface I'm exercising my democratic rights, but it is totally pointless giving him my vote. It serves no meaningful purpose for myself or others.

Personally I'd view it in the context of a vote meaning a decision I make that actually means something.

However this brings us back to the matter of why our system is wholly inadequate.
 

Judge Mental

Well-known Member
It depends what you define "totally pointless" as being.

If I vote for Count Binface I'm exercising my democratic rights, but it is totally pointless giving him my vote. It serves no meaningful purpose for myself or others.

Personally I'd view it in the context of a vote meaning a decision I make that actually means something.

However this brings us back to the matter of why our system is wholly inadequate.
I agree with the notion that you have to deal with the world as it is and not as you’d like it to be.

It would be great to have a better electoral system. Until then I’m going to work the system we have to try to achieve a) the election of a party I can live with or b) the removal of a party I can’t (whichever is most achievable where I live).

b) is far and away the most pressing priority because pretty much every alternative to another Tory government will be an improvement, however small.
 

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