Discussion in 'TVs' started by MattV, Apr 26, 2005.
Read loads about both of these. Both seem to be the same price. Is there a clear winner?
and the winner by a full length is......Samsung sp50 everyone will see sets different, demo them both to see which one suits you
agreed, if it wasn't for the built in stand which stops me from having it.
Id go for the samsung as it hasnt any 60Hz issues. You'll get used to the stand
Thats very honest of you Razor
I agree that the Samsung sp50 is the best all rounder and you will like the stand once you get it home, very hi-tech with nice blue touch sensor lights and looks the nippies as long as you can blend it into the decor.
Either that or you could change the decor
It would mean thowing out a 3 month old £1000 piece of furniture to be able to have the Samsung. Think I am leaning towards the Sagem, probably stupidly becuase I can get it from John Lewis, and shouldn't have too much hastle if I have problems.
Its the truth TYN, why buy a set with a major basic fault if there is an equaly good set with out any.
Ebay the furniture, 45' is a big drop in size.
You can also get the Samsung from JL but I would have to agree with you about the stand. Not my cup of tea, a bit too inflexible in terms of screen height.
Actually you have a good point about the fixed screen height.
the sammy is at perfect height for me, eye level when u are sitting down
What basic fault are you refering to Razor?? My Sagem is simply stunning (now). Yes I had a few teething problems, but all resolved now and I couldnt be happier with the HD45.
Inability to display 60hz signals without juddering. Pretty major for all but a minority of users, I'd say.
The RD range from Optoma cant accpet a 60Hz source (ie. region 1 dvd's or Pal60) with out juddering. Optoma messed up and released this set without testing to see if it was NTSC/60Hz compatible. The only way round this problem and it isnt a 100% effective is to use a scaler or a HTPC with a program like powerstrip which will send out a 50Hz signal instead of a 60hz one.
As a previous owner of the Sagem HD45, I'd say got for the Samsung, the Sagem has way too many issues (frosted screen, moving image blur, badly thought out use of source switching to name some of them.)
Read too many things about the Sagem as well - if you can't use the stand, go for the SP46 - or the Toshiba 46 perhaps??
Thanks. Will investigate the SP46. Does the Sagem 45 play R2 NTSC DVDs ok? Am confused whether this is a problem on this model?
Should read region 1 not region 2.
I think only Optoma were stupid enough not to make a 60hz compatible tv, sagem should be fine.
well spotted, yes I meant R1 NTSC.
Now got to find a Samsung SP46L3HX to have a look at, and then decide between that and the Sagem HD-D45
To be pedantic, region codes and TV standards don't tie up as neatly as they might. And this TV has no issue at all with any region codes. It does however have an issue with NTSC (and any other 60hz) signals.
NTSC can be found on:
- all (?) region 1 discs
- all region 2 discs from Japan
- some/few region 2 discs sourced in Europe
- some/few region 4 discs sourced in Australasia
- all (?) region 4 discs from South America
- a proportion (which may be all) of region 3 discs
If it won't play region 1 NTSC discs, then it won't play region 2 (or any other) NTSC discs either. Better to simply refer to the problematic discs as NTSC, without including a region code.
OK so the Sagem HD-D45 does have a problem with NTSC?
Hi Guys, first post on this site, I have been reading the various comments on DLP and the Sagem Axium in particular. I first saw this TV in Comet in February this year, I could not help but notice it as it was running a High Def Demo and the PQ was astonishing. So I searched for the TV on the net and found this site with all of the ongoing discussions. After due consideration I felt the the majority of Sagem users were either positive or very positive about their purchase and decided to take the plunge and buy the HD 45S, I don't need the 2.1 speakers and sub-woofer and twin analogue tuners sounded like chocolate fireguards.
I have now had the set for 3 weeks and consider it to be the best home cinema purchase I have made, I have experienced none of the problems encountered by the few nay sayers and I am absolutely knocked out every time I get home from work and switch this machine on. This set blows away any plasma you care to mention on price alone never mind picture quality and HIGH DEF ready status, I think Sagem should be congratulated on the fact that their second foray into the big screen rear pro market has been such a success, I would reccommend the set to anyone.
NO it doesnt mate so please dont worry.
You might be lucky and spot the Sammy SP46 and the Sagem HD-D45 (albeit the S version) side by side at your local Currys as they're both being sold by them.
My nearest Currys has the SP46 alongside the SP50 and the HD-D45 all on the same feed.
OK. Curry's Fulham (Wandsorth Bridge) Reckon according to stock codes that both of these are on display, but I doubt the person I spoke to could tell the difference between a microwave and a TV so it's definately a fingers crossed visit!
LOL.... I go past there nearly every day.
Saw both the Samsung 46 and the Sagem 45 on saturday. Went for the Sagem 45 from John Lewis in the end. Thought the Samsung was a better package in terms of build quality, remote and on screen menu system, but £500 for 5 yr warranty from currys tipped the balance. Especially as any faults would mean speaking to their staff, and having to pay for the priviledge.
However if it wasn't for the built in stand I would have gone for the 50in Samsung anyday.
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