I'm quite impressed with the TT player. Summary; Micro-stuttering on Insurrection pans (NTSC R1) are fine. Star Wars (PAL R2) looks generally fantastic still think I have a noise problem though... Help.... Good news... DVDgenie Windows auto-region works fine if anyone was wondering. I've read RegionKiller will also work and may be more seamless, but I've not tried it. Installation was acceptable. I had to read the supplied .PDF manual troubleshooting section to see how I should remove and re-install the Raviscent drivers and re-boot because the installation detected and warned about the WinDVD filters but didn't set itself up properly. A few Raviscent setups, reboots and crossed fingers and if runs fine (not s/w mode=hardware mode). Here's the players I've tried and what I'm comparing against. Summary of HTPC software DVD player performance noted:- -------------------------------------------------------- a) WinDVD3.0/Radeon 4.12.3063 driver/Properties|Video|Hardware decoding ON horrible with almost combing type noise visible around the up scrolling Star Wars prologue. I think this is known as the chroma bug. b) WinDVD3.0/Radeon 4.12.3063 driver/Properties|Video|Hardware decoding OFF Reasonably smooth pans. I noticed on the Matrix sub-ship scenes and then also on Star Wars I that dark background scenes fade and get darker over a few seconds. c) ATI 5.0/Radeon 4.13.7093 OR 4.13.7189 OR 7199 drivers|Hardware assist ON Colours and backgrounds may look ever so slightly cleaner and no darkening. Chroma noise on Insurrection red title and Star Wars prologue. No digital audio pass-thru. d) ZoomPlayer 2.3 beta 2 using c) above filters/drivers. Picture as above, but can use filter properties to enable pass-thru DD/DTS. Problems were; lipsync after Pausing or ff/ rew and intermittent lockups of ZoomPlayer. e) WinDVD3.0/Radeon 4.13.7093 OR 4.13.7189 drivers/Properties|Video|Hardware decoding ON Much less chroma type noise than seen in a) the newest official driver seemed to help. ********************************* f) WinDVD2.8/Radeon 4.13.7093 drivers/Properties|Video|Hardware decoding OFF Slightly cleaner backgrounds (gamma setting?), quite smooth pans no judder. Quite watchable actually. g) TheatreTek (out-of-the-box)/Radeon 4.13.7093 drivers/Hardware decoding ON because software UNTICKED. Smoothest from judder and pans. Amazingly chroma noise on Insurrection red and Star Wars prologue gone. Nice on-screen gui. May be a slight lipsync issue, but doesn's seem to creep and get very bad. Very nice actually. h) Sony 725 domestic player S-Video via Falcon capture card/dScaler. *still not tried* perhaps this weekend! -------------------------------------------------------- I'm still trying to work out how to properly set the overlay/gamma with 4.13.7093 (27-Mar-2001) Radeon drivers. These seem to be common for most Win9x TT users. My problem is that Roland calibrated the projector when I was running the out-of-the-box 4.12.3056 (19-Sep-2000) drivers and WinDVD3.0. I'm trying to keep things relative to that baseline. The only visual objectionable I'm trying to get rid of now, is that I can see too much banding/noise detail in stationery background scenesthe backgrounWhat I'm trying to get rid of (and I noticed on WinDVD 3.0; various Radeon drivers tried on another ghost installation). This noise seems to change/pulse about twice per second. I've noticed it on both the R1 and R2 discs above. I think that it must be the gamma curve somwhere because I have set the visible black-level with THX Optimode. I'm hoping it's just because it's showing too much low-level detail. i.e. perhaps Roland compensated for the low 4.12.3056 gamma curve, but now TT has also compensated and gamma is curving too high. Any suggestions or advice appreciated. Any thoughts Roland? (we knew this would happen sometime, didn't we!) cheers, Rob.