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Theatertek disappointment

Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by MarkHudds, Aug 20, 2003.

  1. MarkHudds

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    Downloaded Theatertek last night for a 7 day trial ....

    I'm comparing with my existing player - PowerDVD XP 4.0 and I'm having real difficulty seeing any difference in picture quality.

    I'm using a Sony 12HT @ 1366x768x56hz and a 10' screen, so I would of thought any small improvements would show up on this setup?

    Can anyone suggest what I should look for? I know many of you have gone from PowerDVD to Theatertek and rave about the improvements, however at the moment I think I'll be requesting a refund rather than requesting my permanent registration key!

    Cheers

    p.s. can Theatertek play DVD's off the Hard drive like the CTRL+O option in PowerDVD?
     
  2. Jeff

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    The differences are very noticable on my setup, please tell me more about your PC hardware (graphics card etc) and what versions of software and drivers you are using.
    Theatertek can play DVDs straight off the HD.
     
  3. MarkHudds

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    Hi Jeff ...

    HW is Athlon 1600 / ATI AIW 8500DV
    SW is Windows XP Pro / Catalyst 3.6 / DirectX 9.0b / Latest motherboard & chipset drivers (not using either ffdshow or reclock).

    Cheers
     
  4. Donnacha

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    I've got both and much prefer TT. My screen is only 6ft mind you, but I can notice the differences.
     
  5. MarkHudds

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    I don't dispute that there are differences ... it's just that I'm not seeing them! It therefore doesn't seem common sense to shell out £50.

    Can anyone provide an example in a particular film where I should be looking? I've compared backgrounds for blockiness etc and both players appear the same. Colours and Sharpness are both in-line too.

    Maybe my eyes are going!
     
  6. Jeff

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    Both using DXVA ?
     
  7. MarkHudds

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    Jeff - I'll check DXVA tonight and report back. What does this setting do exactly?

    nice that I've got 7 days (well 6 now) to make my mind up!
     
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    Theatertek is worth the money simply for its feature set, the overscanning and aspect ratio control are a god send.

    DXVA enables hardware acceleration, as well as reduceing CPU requirements it also improves picture quality. (as long as you have the right graphics card like a Radeon)
     
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    I run it with my GF4 4400, does DXVA work OK with this?
     
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    I didn't see a big advantage with TT until I teamed it up with ffdshow. Now it is clearly better than anything else I have, including a Denon 3800 with pricey component leads.

    Now as soon as the immersive guys get the drivers sorted out - TT+ffdshow+H3DII aux card - ummmm.
     
  11. Mark Ward

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    I seem to remember a thread that explains how to do this, but I can't seem to find it with keyword searches.

    Anyone got a link to it?

    Thanks,

    Mark.
     
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    Jeff - DXVA is enabled in Theatertek and 'hardware acceleration' is enabled within Power DVD.

    I've watched numerous films tonight and both players still give the same (great) results (viewing the same clip on one after the other).

    Could it be that TT is better with 9*** Radeons rather than my 8500?

    Maybe it's the £50 well spent that gives the 'perceived' better picture? ;) Seriously though, I'm sure TT is better, but I guess I'll have to consider myself less of a 'videophile' after this trial!

    Any more ideas or further details on how you found the 'noticable differences'? (I've ruled out ffdshow as I don't want to keep doing the registery PAL/NTSC switch thingy and I can't see my CPU being too happy either!)

    Thanks
     
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    Do a search “”Zoomplayer & TheaterTek””

    It’s on MarkHudds Thread
     
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    I haven't played with PowerDVD 4.0 since it first came out, they might have fixed a few things since then. The main differences at the time were detail and mpeg related artifacts, i.e PowerDVD is less detailed, softer and shows up mpeg artifacts more.
     
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    It should work fine, but on a NVidia card software decodeing might be the better option. Try it and see which you prefare.
     
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    I agree with Jeff, dark scenes looked blockier and softer on PowerDVD 4 over TT. Maybe the latest version of PowDVD is better? Also the apsect ratio control is great for those non-anomorphic dvds.

    FFW and FRW are abit of a problem though, on my laptop (my only complaint).

    If you're happy with PowerDVD then keep it - "if it aint broke...."etc.
     
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    Hi, although I now use Powerdvd 5.0 (due to soundcard issues) I think the key reason I would keep TT over Powerdvd 4.0 is the vast improvement with slow pans. They are much smoother than Powerdvd 4.0 eg the opening scene to Vertical Limit when the camera pans from the flying eagle to the Death Valley monoliths, in Powerdvd 4.0 it is very juddery, whereas TT (and Powerdvd 5.0 and Nvidia 2.55) the panning is almost completely smooth. Just that is worth the £50 !! By the way I am using a Sony VPL-VW11HT.

    Cheers,

    Steve
     

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