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The Two Towers Extended Edition

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by bowenjones, Apr 16, 2003.

  1. bowenjones

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    But will that be 30 minutes plus another 13 minutes of fanclub title credits? I hope its 43 minutes of actual footage!
     
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    On FOTR the extra 30 mins of footage didn't include the fanclub credits.:rolleyes:
    JP's already said it's an extra 40+ minutes of footage added back into the film, with an additional 150 effects shots and a whole new audio mix.
    If they add the fanboy credits again that'll take it up to at least an extra hour
     
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    I think it needs repeating.

    The fan club stuff in the credits extra mins aren't included in the 30 min extra video added to the LOTR:FOTR extended version.
     
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    The article looks interesting. I was a bit cheesed off about how the time Merry and Pippin spent with Treebeard was glossed over in the theatrical version, looks like the extended edition will redress the balance.
     
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    I hope it won't be on 3 disks :rolleyes:
     
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    Should be on two discs like FOTR:EE - I doubt the extra 11 mins will push it over 18 GB of data.

    If it did we could at least claim that the disc changing was exercise! :D

    Couch potato? Me? Surely not!
     
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    The official site says the Extended will have 35, not 43 extra minutes of footage. It's probable that the interview is wrong in citing 43 minutes.
     
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    Or that 43 minutes includes the credits?
     
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    Well it is now official, the extended edition will feature 43 minutes of new and extended footage and will be a 4 disc box set.

    You can see the official announcement here
     
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    Hi

    Does anybody know if there will be a TTT 5 disc collector gift set like there was with the FOTR

    Thank

    Sam
     
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    I believe there is going to be a five disc set and it will include Gollum bookends this time around.
     
  13. Sam V

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    Thats good but expensive news!!!!!

    I am going to need a whole LOTR DVD shelf soon.

    Thanks for the reply

    :smashin:
     
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    Is this likely to be an August (unextended) , November (extended) thing again?
     
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    Yep, 26th August for the theatrical version and 18th November for the extended edition.
     
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    I was going to say.

    The four disc set wouldn't look right next to my five disc set. :eek:

    I'll rent at first then buy the five disc set when thats out. :smoke:
     
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    I just saw the extended edition. Great film, of course, but I was suprised that there was no menu option to see the original cinema version. Due to time constraints (it was a rental DVD) I had to program my player to skip the additional scenes, which was a pain...

    I searched the forums for a discussion of this, but didn't find anything. Has anyone heard of (or voiced) similar complaints?
     
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    What do you mean mate, the Extended Edition is a re-edit of the film, it doesnt just branch in the new scenes, they are part of the film, if you want the original cinema release you have to get the Two Towers DVD that was released back in August.
     
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    Program ur player to skip the additional scenes, are u on a wind up cos how would u know which scenes are additional before u came to them.
     
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    The sleeve notes indicate which scenes are new or extended/altered, so no problem to program your player to skip the new ones. However, this would distort the film since as Dr Jones pointed out the extended version is a re-edit.

    To include a theatrical version, they would have needed to include both cinema and extended versions of the scenes that were altered, and played around with the branching. Would that have required an extra disk?

    Excepting situations like expat's I can't imagine there would be much call for it. Personally I'm interested in all the sutff that didn't make it into the extended versions.

    Perhaps on the trilogy über-box set....
     
  22. expat

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    I'm sure most people who buy or rent the extended version are interested in seeing just that, so I suppose my situation is rather unusual. But this was a rental DVD and we didn't start viewing until fairly late, so we wanted to watch the shorter version. Apparently there has been little or no demand for the option of selecting either the original cinema version or the extended version from a menu.

    There was an additional complication, due to the fact that I live in Germany. The rental DVD had German DD 5.1 as the default language. I set up my player (Toshiba SD-230E) to use the English DD 5.1 sound track with German subtitles, and then programmed the player to skip the new scenes (marked as such in the list of scenes).

    Skipping the new scenes worked fine, but unfortunately the player "forgot" to continue in English with German subtitles! So I had to reset the sound track/subtitle settings after each jump. Rather distracting, believe me...
     
  23. Indiana Jones

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    I cant for the life of me understand why you would want to get the Extended Edition if you want to watch the cinema release, doesnt make any sense, if you want the cinema release then you would rent the cinema release.
     
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    As he said, it was a rental version - so he may not have had a choice (especially as this was overseas)
     
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    :confused:I am pretty sure that all this messing around would effect the pace and surely spiol a great movie.

    I would suggest an extra nights rental, put it on earlier and watch the film in its full glory....as Peter Jackson intended.

    Or IMO it is well worth purchasing so then you can watch it at your liesure.......:smashin:
     
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    I dont think it is possible to use Seamless Branching on a DVD like the Extended LOTR films because they are new edits with new music made just for them, it would be like trying to put the original and special edition releases of the Star Wars Trilogy on dvd, it just isnt possible because they have been reworked.
     
  27. expat

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    I have now learned (thanks to Indiana Jones) that the DVD standard includes something called Seamless Branching for exactly the situation that we've been discussing here -- including two versions of a film on a single DVD (or on two discs, as in LOTR TT).

    But I still don't understand what prevented the designers of the Extended Edition from using this technique. You seem to be saying, Indiana Jones, that technical reasons prevented it. But since the film is already on two DVD's, I would think there would have been room for alternate versions of those scenes that have been extended (the additional scenes are already there, of course).

    So wasn't it just a marketing decision not to author the DVD's with seamless branching?

    I am waiting to buy LOTR until the complete film comes out as a boxed set. For me, it's one film and I want to own it as a package. I might be interested in owning the extended version of the complete film, but probably not if I didn't have the option of viewing the shorter version as well. Am I the only one who feels this way?

    How common is seamless branching, by the way?
     
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    I think you have to understand that the Extended Editions dont just have new footage stuck into the film, the original cinema release has been completely re-edited to incorporate the new footage, it would be impossible to branch in all the new material into the original film using SB, seamless branching is only used to put deleted scenes from films back into them, the Extended Editions have been completely re-edited, they dont just have the missing scenes stuck in, if they did then Seamless Branching might work.

    Also, you could not have the new remixed audio track which was recorded just for the DVD, and the normal cinema track on the same film even with seamless branching, it would be a mess, nothing would match up and none of the audio commentary would work either unless you include a commentary for the original and one for the extended which would need double the space there is at the moment which would be 4 discs just for the film which is not acceptable, its just better to release the normal cinema release and then release the Extended Edition for the fans who want to see all the footage filmed in a new edit, if you want both the cinema and the extended edition then I would buy both, I did.
     
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    This will never happen, I can assure you. Basically you have to choose between the Theatrical or extended versions, or buy both. I have bought both, as I am a fan and the fact that there is no overlap of the extras helps too.

    To be honest once I saw the EEs, I personally had no desire to watch the theatrical cuts again, as I feel the EEs are the actual films and the theatrical cuts are just edited down versions to fit into acceptable, box-office time slots, but I will buy/have bought the theatrical versions of all 3 films anyway!
     
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    I've got the Ultimate edition of Terminator 2 (r1) that has 3 different versions of the film on one disc using seamless branching. It has the theatrical release, the Special edition and the Extended Special Edition.

    However this wouldn't work with LOTR EE because it's already split over 2 discs. As soon as you change to disc 2, your DVD player wouldn't have a clue which parts of the film to play.

    It's not very common at all but I suspect not for the same reason as LOTR.
     

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