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The truth about the MMR jab and autism

Stuart Wright

AVForums Founder
Staff member

Toko Black

In Memoriam
The media as ever seeing a potential scare story to frighten parents with regardless of the actual validity of the story or the dramtic affects it would have on childrens health.

It is why is so passionately attempt to debunk and rebuke annectdotes and beliefs .... because they are so often dangerous and spread like wildfire.
 

kopchoir

Banned
This has been going on for years now medical research is an open book with backhanders from powerfull drug companies test subjects all from different backgrounds and different health states.
Sample size is also poor your giving jabs to millions of kids but the sample size is tiny in comaprison.
Some kids get autism some dont media hysteria and shoddy reporting and a lack of education from the NHS to parents.

Edit: Havent watched the youtube videos have huge access to more credible forms of medical research
 

bluevortex

Active Member
Old news but still relevant. I got the letter from the NHS telling me to book our sons 12 month vacinations asap last week, this was backed up with a letter from a health care specialist outlining why its importance. I will be taking him shortly for them. thans for posting
 

weetsie

Well-known Member
i never had any vaccines as a kid, neither did my sister or my brother and it doesnt look like my youngest brother 1 is going to have any either.

i couldnt care either way tbh.
 

captainarchive

Distinguished Member
i never had any vaccines as a kid, neither did my sister or my brother and it doesnt look like my youngest brother 1 is going to have any either.

i couldnt care either way tbh.
I think you should care. A colleague of mine at work never had any vaccinations, except for TB. At the age of 40 he caught chicken pox off his 4 year old and he spent nearly two weeks in intensive care, it nearly killed him.
 

Stuart Wright

AVForums Founder
Staff member
Since the nasty piece of work behind the fraudulent study only got struck off earlier this year, it's recent news, but remains valid since the effects of lower immunity in the population are still having an effect.
If threads like this get into google and dispel the myth that mmr is dangerous, then it will have served a useful purpose.
 

weetsie

Well-known Member
I think you should care. A colleague of mine at work never had any vaccinations, except for TB. At the age of 40 he caught chicken pox off his 4 year old and he spent nearly two weeks in intensive care, it nearly killed him.

1, i have already had chicken pox, its not a big deal when your young.
2, the vaccine isnt even standard so even if i did have vaccines i wouldnt of had it anyway.
 

Toko Black

In Memoriam
1, i have already had chicken pox, its not a big deal when your young.
2, the vaccine isnt even standard so even if i did have vaccines i wouldnt of had it anyway.

Then you are lucky for several reasons:

Assuming you are like most posters in the UK or equivelant country, we have through previous vaccinination and public health regimes managed to limit the number of infectious diseases so that we are relatively safe.
In the majority of the world, they are not so lucky and risk infectious, dibilitating and sometimes lethal infections because they are endemic.

You also have just been lucky by having one of more of the following:
strong autoimmune / natural resistance / not exposed to anything particularly nasty.

Whilst luck and whim may be one thing, people die due to infectious diseases all the time that we can prevent.
People are born with preventable disabilities or mothers loose their children during pregnancy due to preventable illnesses.

Being blasé about diseases and vaccines is naive and dangerous.

Imagine what you comments might be if a family member had never caught Rubella, got pregnant then lost the child because of someone selfish who couldn't be bothered to vaccinate themselves catching it and passing it on to the mother to be.
20% of expantant mothers that catch Rubella will loose their child, many more will be born with illnesses that can affect their lives long term.

If I catch german measles I will be ill for a bit and get over it. I could say what do I care about that, but then I have to consider who I may infect or pass it on to.
 
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weetsie

Well-known Member
Assuming you are like most posters in the UK or equivelant country, we have through previous vaccinination and public health regimes managed to limit the number of infectious diseases so that we are relatively safe.
In the majority of the world, they are not so lucky and risk infectious, dibilitating and sometimes lethal infections because they are endemic.

eh, i think i will be ok, i have been to gambia, thailand and spent alot of time in indonesia where there are open sewers and all that good stuff and im still alive to tell the tale.
 

Toko Black

In Memoriam
eh, i think i will be ok, i have been to gambia, thailand and spent alot of time in indonesia where there are open sewers and all that good stuff and im still alive to tell the tale.

Ah, so diseases don't exist in weetsies world, better let the WHO know and they can close down and save a small fortune then.

I am sorry, but your comments are very stupid and reckless. If you want to play russian roulette with your health, that is your general concern, but when that also risks spreading potentially lethal infections to others, it is down right thoughtless.
 
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andrew markwort

Active Member
People who don't get immunised don't put just themselves at risk, but everyone else as well, since there is a very real danger that an epidemic that sweeps through the non-immunised will yield a new mutation of a disease that will attack the immunised as well.

Strutting around saying 'I've never been immunised, and I've never got a disease' is about as responsible as saying 'I never worry about how much I've drunk when I get behind the wheel of my car'. An individual might be lucky and never kill themselves or others. But such a group of jackasses collectively are a real menace not only to themselves but society as a whole, since the odds are stacked in favour of them causing real damage.

eh, i think i will be ok, i have been to gambia, thailand and spent alot of time in indonesia where there are open sewers and all that good stuff and im still alive to tell the tale.

And did you drink from the sewers or water contaminated by the sewers? I think not. In any case, many infections spread person to person. For example, the UK had regular epidemics of measles, mumps, etc, long after we had a clean water supply and good sewerage. Only mass immunisation stopped these diseases in their tracks.
 
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KhalJimbo

Distinguished Member
Since the nasty piece of work behind the fraudulent study only got struck off earlier this year, it's recent news, but remains valid since the effects of lower immunity in the population are still having an effect.
If threads like this get into google and dispel the myth that mmr is dangerous, then it will have served a useful purpose.

But GC doesnt show up in google anymore doesnt it?
 

inzaman

Moderator
Conclusion, parents have absolutely no reason to fear 'giving' their children autism by allowing them to have the MMR or any other jab.
In fact they are putting their children at considerable risk if they don't.

After spending considerable time researching last year when it was time to get our son vaccinated we too came to this conclusion :)
 
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Deleted member 30535

Guest
But GC doesnt show up in google anymore doesnt it?

Yes it does....

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