The teenager put in bin by police.

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  1. Ethics Gradient

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    I heard about this story the other week and thought it was quite amusing.
    Teenager being cheeky is put in a bin by a police officer to shut him up.

    However, I have just caught up on the story and it appears that the officer is suspended from duty and the boys father is looking to take the police to court.
    The boys father is saying the boy was doing nothing wrong and was simply waiting for a bus - that he was mistaken for being with another group of youths who were alledgedly throwing conkers and that his son was assaulted.

    Part of the incident was captured on mobile phone video

    Link to story with video

    The video is cut with interviews with the two boys envolved in the incident along with a BBC reporter.

    ..... I watched the film and noticed the boy saying how how he tried to stop himself being put in the bin so he held onto the railings and he was wrenched off and forced down into the bin ... he seemed to stress this.

    ..... so I checked it out ..... and its utter drivel ... he doesn't seem to grab the railings until after the police officer has walked off to get himself out .... and he doesn't seemed to be forced down into the bin at all - simple lowered under his own weight. The has is arm out towards the fence, but the police officer never stops or yanks at him, he simple keeps walking with him over his shoulder uninterupted.

    ...... so from observation, the boy is a liar - even with evidence that its rubbish .... his father seems to backing him up.

    Either the father is stupid - or he's trying to cash in on compensation ...... and we wonder why teenagers are so much trouble now a days.
     
  2. Solomon Grundy

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    either way, since when was it ok for a cop to stick a kid in a bin? They have pepper spray don't they? Or Tazers...were they malfunctioning?
     
  3. Miyazaki

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    they should have put the kid in the bin then tazered him, then sprayed him with pepper!
     
  4. Ethics Gradient

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    don't forget the dog poo
     
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    Im sure if he had been arrested they'd be complaining about that so what can you do. If id done that as a kid my parents would :

    A. Have thought it was rather funny
    B. A better way of using police time (not having to spend 4 hours writing up a report following an arrest)
    C. I probably would have deserved it.

    Its all very well and good having faith in your kids but most people will stretch the truth if we feel we have to but as has already been mentioned, the kids story of events differ considerably from the film on the mobile - surely you'd get your story straight before telling everyone about it :confused:
     
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    Don't like to prejudge or anything

    But I can't see the problem. Teenagers like him that give the rest of us a bad name
     
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    So now we all have to pay while this policeman is off work on full wages pending investigation. He may also have a few extra weeks sickness due to stress onto this, when he seems to have dealt sensibly, and with humour with a minor temporary problem.

    Before I viewed the video I had assumed the kid was chucked in head first but he was only fleetingly dipped in :mad: .

    Why is he not back in work :confused:
     
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    Do you want to go in a bin as well sonny?!?! :mad: :rotfl:
     
  9. Ethics Gradient

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    because the childs father is making a stink about how his precious, innocent child was unjustly assaulted.
     
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    Do you think if some anonymous benefactor offered him (the dad) £100,000 to shut up and go away, never to be seen or heard from again, he'd mysteriously 'drop the charges'?? :rolleyes:
     
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    oh no...i'm sure he has very strong principles and isn't do this for the 'compo' ;-)
     
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    Whether or not the kid deserved it is not the question. He shouldn't have been put in a bin.
    Do you think that taught him any kind of respect towards the police ? I pretty much doubt it.

    It's like saying that it's ok for policemen to beat up a murderer who's just been caught.
     
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    Why not? He was refuse-ing arrest. :D
     
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    What a load of. :rolleyes: Just for a change. No, not the father, some of the ranting here (Jenn excluded)!

    Couple of points

    First, I have always had a respect for the law. However, that doesn't, through bitter experience, mean I trust them. Tamper with statements, the Police? Never! Well, yes they do actually. They did with a witness statement I made.

    The meaning of the above? Don't take anyones word for an event until its been proved beyond doubt. Certainly not from snippets on the web, a source that's as reliable as a plumbers estimate.

    Second, and back to the issue in hand.

    If I was that guys dad I'd be livid too. Why? Well, if the Policeman had handled the situation right, Ie he'd nicked my son for vandalism or causing an affray and taken him down the station then I'd be 100% behind him. Plus, I would follow up by disciplining the boy again, beyond anything the Police handed out. However, as soon as he dumps him in a bin, which people quite often use to dump their dogs filth in, and all sorts of other infection causing crap, then he's lost my support. Sorry, but that's helped the situation not one jot.

    Here though I would differ from what happened. I would want an apology for such a stupid act, but that's it. As long as no harm was done, why keep a copper off the beat, and waste tax payers money?

    Once again we see the real reason for the overprotection in our society - litigation. :mad:
     
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    Here here
     
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    I ain't fallin' for that hook you just left dangling... :D
     
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    I'm not sure exactly what you're implication is, ie who exactly the comments are aimed at, but incase you are refering to the comments in my origianl post, the are not quotes from the web, but direct quotes from the BBC video - what the boys said from his own mouth - and what I watched on his own video evidence of the events.
     
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    Yep, I've also seen the video taken, and read the boy's comments... and it's just total nonsense....aimed purely at liberal parents of children the same age who can't see any further than "somebody doing that to my child"....... :eek:

    "It's the worst thing that has ever happened to him......" yadayadayadayada

    He must live on a very nice estate... :rotfl:
     
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    This whole incident is another example of shoddy police work and how standards have fallen.

    I mean, what half-competent copper puts someone in a bin feet first? :cool:
     
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    Fair enough. But having seen how the BBC tamper with film, I wouldn't take their version on trust either. ;)

    :rolleyes: Dude, I can't see why you hate the US so much, you sound more like a redneck every day............ :D :smashin:
     
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    Ok, maybe the policeman's behaviour wasn't 100% professional.

    But the point you all seem to be missing is that the kids are laughing! You think if the policeman was doing anything other than messing around they would find it funny?

    And also the fact the second guy is actually filming it on his phone, and the officer let him do so, suggest again that it was light-hearted.
     
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    it was done in jest. they seemed to be laughing along. the boy is an obivous liar ( his hand wasnt wrentched from the railing) and probably deserved to be there in the first place. now theyre just kicking up a stink. i bet the word "compensation" isnt too far on the dad's list of words he wishes to use to address this matter
     
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    Dads just lookin' for a quick buck if anything and his 15 minutes

    Don't believe the "media experts"!

    Kids are tougher than they'd make out. Hell, they take do-gooders for mugs most of the time
     
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    Exactly.

    I quite agree. While I don't condone sticking him in the bin, the guys father certainly should'nt be able to sue. Makes you wonder if the fathers got him to change his whole story just to cash in. That being the case its time to change the rules governing my fave bugbear. Litigation. The curse of the civil servant and the taxpayer.
     
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    Its a pity it wasnt a bottle bin. :devil:
     

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