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The Prisoner on BBC4

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  1. dsw182

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    I was watching The Prisoner late last night on BBC4, as I have been doing for the whole series, and noticed that the episode "Once Upon a Time" was shown in a wider screen ratio to the other episodes so far (which have all been 4:3).

    Does anyone know if there is a particular reason for this? Was this episode show differently or are there no copies of the other episodes in widescreen?
     
  2. Garrett

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    I have the entire series on DVD and that episode is not in any other format to the others, I also saw 2/3rds of the Girl Who Was Death and that was in 4:3 could the BBC have cropped some off the top and bottom?
    The only two versions of a episode I know of is The Chimes of Big Ben (POP version) but that is still 4:3 as it would seeing the series was recorded in the 60s.
    You do not have a screenshot from last night so I could compare it?
     
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    No screenshot unfortunately.

    It was a bit strange as "The Girl Who Was Death " was in 4:3 (same as the others), there was a break from the BBC Four ident etc. and then "Once Upon A Time" started - it was in 16:9.

    I didn't particularly notice that the top & bottom had been cropped.
     
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    Hi,

    Sounds more like the BBC didn't have the auto-screen ratio checker correctly working. Normally, their logos and stuff are all done in 16:9 widescreen, then there should be a split-second black screen, during which the screen-ratio should change back to 4:3, and then "The Prisoner" should air, in 4:3 full-frame.

    It does sound as if the show started in 16:9 (or maybe 14:9) and then when the technical bods at the BBC noticed the error, switched the screen-ratio so that it transmitted the rest of the episode in normal 4:3.

    As the show was filmed way back in the 1960's, it would be highly unlikely that the episodes (which went out on ITV) would have been filmed in anything other than regular, fullframe 4:3.

    Pooch


    Addendum: Does anyone know why the first 12 episodes of "The Prisoner" always start with the same credits/opening scenes (lasting about 3 minutes in total, including the scene were No 6 wakes up, looks out the window and then we get the episode and cast/crew details, as well as the introduction to the new No 2), and yet the following 4 episodes, start without the usual sequence, and tend to go straight into the episodes themselves, as happened with "The Girl Who Was Death", "Living In Harmony", et al? Thanks!
     
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    I assumer the slight change in the post-title sequence is to assist the storyline.

    For example with "The Girl Who Was Death" you begin the episode not knowing if this a flashback story or something else. The fact that you don't see him wake up in the village & aren't introduced to the new No.2 could make the audience believe the story isn't set in the village.

    With "Living in Harmony", the titles show how has No.2 has mentally duped No.6 into the roleplay to get him to talk.

    The last two episodes are probably just for time saving. Leo McKern has his own introductory scene when he returns and the final episode is a straight continuation.
     
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    The first episode is longer than the rest, some added scenes are in the car park, when he exit a hearse can be seen across the top of the car park then the next shot is a view from inside it with No6 following then over taking.

    The reason Living In Harmony is it is not take in the village The Girl Who Was Death Does not give away who 2 is Fall Out is a continuation of Once Upon A Time.

    And the book that was use in the opening scene of The Girl Who Was Death was taken from an encyclopaedia.
    Anybody know the music use in this episode when he was in the candle stick makers?
     
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    Although it was never confirmed that The Prisoner was a follow on from Danger Man, The Girl Who Was Death had a few sly winks in that direction: The bowler was played by the actor John Drake. Christopher Benjamin played Potter he also played Potter in Danger Man.
     
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    The series is being repeated again on BBC4 Monday 27th Dec at 7.10pm.
     
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    Thanks for posting about this garrett.

    Idon't normally look at the listings for BBC4 so would've missed this next week

    :suicide:
     
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    They are bringing the series out on DVD in weekly instalments with a magazine with it. The first issue is £2.99 and the following issues are £7.99. But it is lot cheaper to get them in a box set.
     

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