The Predator Review & comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      Oh dear :thumbsdow
       
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      so you didn't like the film then Cas?
       
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      Will prob miss this at the cinema then and wait for a (wishfully thinking) Directors Cut on disc.
       
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      I was expecting it to be bad but wow :D
       
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      I was fearing that. It had all the telltale signs - advertised long before it is due for release and then advertised to death just before the release. It's like the studio know that it is a stinker and need to decide whether to just cut their losses and cross their fingers or advertise it to death to hype it up.

      I first saw cinema trailers over 6 months ago, though not as extreme as Jupiter Ascending which started running trailers over a year before it was released.

      Will still go and see it as I have Cineworld Unlimited but won't be paying extra for IMAX.

      Cheers,

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      Oh no.

      How is it possible to screw up such an iconic and terrifying character?

      Perhaps it's time to just leave this be now, like they ought to with "Alien".
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas. I had a feeling this might turn out to be a turkey...:facepalm:
       
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      Oh, so you think it might be more coherent if, as Cas implies in his review, they put the "missing" scenes back in?

      It might be worse!:eek:
       
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      Let us know what you think, Nigel?
       
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      Seeing it tonight !
       
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      There's only one Predator movie.

      As an aside, why the use of US movie certifications in a UK review? We do have our own ratings you know, which are much more relevant to the UK audience on this UK site.
       
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      Oh poop:facepalm:
       
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      Because there's a difference between a PG-13 and an R (the original rating in the States) and the 15 that both *might* get in the UK. Since the ratings don't exactly match, it's often more useful to differentiate using the US ratings in order to get an idea of what kind of movie you're looking at.

      For example, both AvP and The Predator are 15 rated in the UK.

      But they are clearly very different in terms of violence and gore. Why? Because AvP is a PG-13 in the States (but too violent to get under our 12A rating) and The Predator is easily R-rated, but our 15 rating is much more lenient these days.

      So explaining that AvP and The Predator are both 15 tells you nothing. Saying that AvP is a PG-13 and The Predator is R-rated tells you everything.

      Hope that makes sense and helps reassure you that I do indeed know that we have our own ratings but, despite that, I actually do NOT think that they are 'much more relevant' to the UK audience on this UK site.
       
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      So Final Score is 50% better than this!
       
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      Unfortunately that's an utterly pointless comparison.

      Best bet is to forget the scores and read the reviews.

      Final Score is a practically straight-to-TV low budget riff on Die Hard, The Predator is a big budget, big screen soft reboot/sequel of Predator. If The Predator was release on SkyTV it may have been more comparable.
       
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      Gutted - had high hopes for this. Just picked up the 4k version on itunes of the original and its a classic!
       
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      Just kidding Cas. I haven't seen either, 6 or a 4, both scores suggest they're not worth my time.

      To be honest I'd go the Mark Kermode route, and avoid scores all together.
       
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      Looks like Empire have given it a 3/5 - apparently still appeal to long term fans:

      The Predator
       
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      And as they always say, 3 stars is a recommendation. But Empire are always generous with big title releases.
       
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      Yeah I read that immediately after writing my review. It's still worrying that the highest rating that it's getting is a 6/10, and that the only positives they can talk about are gore, a throwback actioner vibe and references to the first movie. Which is really straining for positives.
       
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      Well that's a bit disappointing,had high hopes for this.:(
       
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      Thanks for the Review Cas. From this, it's not even making it to the rental list - would be a waste of a slot!
      As someone else said, a shame - I was hoping for a solid revisit to the Predator concept, which was excellent.
      Guess time to wait another few years for the next "reboot"
       
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      I'm actually looking forward to seeing this even more now:D
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas i was looking forward to this film, now i am not so sure. :(
       
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      I haven't seen this one yet, but I think it's a case of lightning in a bottle for the original film and it will never be topped. The era, the cast, the first time seeing the Predator, the testosterone, the handshake, the one-liners. Whilst not as good as the first, I don't mind Predator 2.
       
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      Not surprised at this review as from the trailers it looked like it wouldnt make any sense. Too many characters that didnt seem to fit together.

      Saying that, whilst I'll avoid at the cinema I'll definitely catch it at home at some point. I love the original and like the sequel a lot. Predators isnt half bad, but the AvP movies can go do one.
       
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      I think this was doomed to fail, the story has pretty much been told which is the same reason terminator reboots keep falling flat. They need to move to a completely new narrative or let the genre die.

      I'll still watch it when it comes out but I doubt i'll bother buying it on blu ray to keep.
       
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      I actually think that they don't need to try so hard to get a 'new' story. That was half of the problem with The Predator.

      I think personally Predator 2 works so well because it changes the setting to urban, and introduces gang violence as an attraction, but leaves the essential stalk-your-trophies premise the same, with a team of highly trained 'soldiers' getting picked off on in deadly territory by someone other than the expected enemies.

      They should have looked for a similar update, perhaps pitching it in a desert setting with modern combat, keeping the basic premise the same and then just tweaking the characters and scenes. It's something a lot of the graphic novel stories did to great effect.

      Sure, they can introduce multiple predators and some of the complications that they actually use here, but the rest of the basic structure should have been left in-tact.

      Such wild new changes as Black has attempted could have been left for a sequel had this one done ok. Instead this one is desperately set up for a sequel which may well never happen because they didn't get this one right.
       
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      Cheers for the review, Cas.
      I'll still get dragged along to this by my boy (to pay for it); who also loves 1&2 and the others to a lessor degreee, but I never dreamt it'll be any good.
      It sounds like a total mess. I agree about the overcooking of themes and as you say; simple tweaks worked in graphic novels out there, so why not this? And when you think about it, notably, other film sequels that have worked haven't tried to reinvent the wheel. It sounds like Black has tried to avoid the accusation of a simple reboot but has gone way overboard.
       

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