My first post for about six months! I went to the What Hi-Fi Show yesterday, and harangued a few of the representatives of the major manufacturers about when we can expect a DVD Recorder/HDD with an integrated Freeview tuner. Sadly, the people they send to these events tend to be marketing people, who know the schtick but don't know much beyond. In fact, I got the impression with the Japanese firms that they deliberately keep their own people in the dark. Anyway, these are the potted results. The Toshiba guy seemed surprised by the question, and tried to make out there wasn't much call for it(!) The Pioneer chap thought that it would probably happen this time next year, but didn't know much beyond that. The Sony fellow said they'd withdrawn it from the Sony 500 because of a Channel 4 compatibility issue but pointed out Freeview was integrated into the DVD Recorder without the hard drive (not much use). Again he made out it would happen next year, but I don't think he knew. It was at this point, someone else joined in, saying that his Visa was ready the moment one became available, and that whoever came out with one first is set to make a killing. The most informative and in the loop guy was from Philips. He basically told me without telling me that they are going to bring one out in the next few months. He did point out though that the big thing in the next couple of years will be Hard Disk Recorders over DVD Recorders. He repeated what one or two others had said, which was that the sticking point is that in Europe only the UK and Germany have Freeview or an equivalent, and they had to make models that would work for the whole of Europe. He also told me that my Sky + box can effectively be integrated with one of their recorders, which can control the Sky + planner and record programmes from Sky straight onto the Philips hard drive. I haven't heard of this before - and apologies if I've missed hundreds of threads covering this - but I'd love to have this confirmed, as it's just what I've been waiting for. I thought I'd have to record programmes on Sky + and then transfer them over to the HDD/DVD Recorder, before editing them and transferring them to DVD, which would be a cumbersome method.