Discussion in 'General Chat' started by signs, Jan 6, 2012.
Has been given a 12A certificate ....it is unsuitable for Miners
I was disappointed that there was no cameo from Robert Downey Jr.
remind me not to watch it
I thought you would have been a big fan of it...
I knew some people would treat this as a emotive post , and I knew it would be you
Do you need to be reminded not to watch it?
I'll hopefully be going this weekend to see it.
Nah, they only planted one bomb at Brighton.
Haha very good!
lol, my girlfriend saw the name of this film and thought it was a spin-off of Iron Man... if only!
Whats next the David Cameron Film?
Wow is that the time ..1am ,I'm off
I would feel sick half way through it
So don't watch it. Nobody is forcing you to.
trust me , I wont.i'd far rather streak across the Gobi desert
I've just read the first user review on Imdb. Apparently two thirds of the film concentrate on her "slide into dementia" - might be worth watching after all (two thirds of it at least).
So it's a case of "I won't watch it, unless it portrays her in a light which fits with my own prejudiced opinion" then?
Personally, I was probably a bit too young to have really felt any effects of the Thatcher government (though I do remember having milk in school and then not having milk any more - given I've never been a huge fan of milk on it's own, it wasn't that much of a problem), I believe she was ousted when I was around 15 or so.
Nonetheless, it's not the sort of film I'd rush out to the cinema for anyway, I'll probably wait till it's out on blu and watch it then...
In this and the other thread he's up to four posts so far to say the same thing that everyone knew anyway.
When can you leave?
Users on IMDb are polarised, ie. they're both loving it and bashing it. Take a look at the rating breakdown if you don't believe me.
Are you really that afraid of a different opinion ?
[prej-uh-dis] noun, verb, -diced, -dic·ing.
an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
If you ignore that banking problems were born from the 80's greed culture she championed, the decimation and eventual loss of our country's heavy industries, the consequences of a war and strike she orchestrated for political gain and the selling off of national assets to pay for it all.
Then yes, you are correct, there are no lasting effects.
I'm still looking forward to using my Grave Dancing Shoes soon
I'll be honest, I am totally ignorant of what Margaret Thatcher did to make so many people hate her. I wasn't even a teenager yet when she resigned from office.
Any links to unbiased well written reports on what she did wrong would be welcome? I hear lots about poll tax etc, but not really clued up on anything else. To confirm I want unbiased ones, not some fanatical Labour Thatcher hater nutjobs blog thank you.
I don't think LGS has a blog....
She turned the country round from what was the legacy of the 70's with nonstop strikes to one where what the rest of the world called ‘the British Disease became a thing of the past.
Unprofitable industries and nationalisation was ended in favour of privatised industries which could compete with other nations.
She also retook the Falkland Islands after they were invaded by a belligerent neighbour.
At the time there was a feeling we were standing shoulder to shoulder with the US during the cold war. People like Blair were regarded as a ‘poodle.'
After the Argentine defeat the Argentine military junta was overthrown and the country had a democracy.
Labour at the time wanted to return to the dark days of the 70's with the power handed back to the unions and nonstop strikes. The laws brought in then meant that now strikes actually tend to be for the right reasons and also are balloted with their members first.
Labour also back then were backing things like unilateral disarmament.
The electorate didn't want any of it and kept electing Thatcher and then Major after her. Finally Labour moved to the centre when it realised time had moved on and became New Labour and they were finally trusted with government again.
Other things were people encouraged to own shares in business or to buy their own homes. Privatisation of industries led to more choice. Back then if you wanted a phone it was from BT or no one. They offered a choice of about five phones.
Thatcher not only changed the landlines she also opened up the airwaves to mobile phones.
Stephen Fry On The Phone: The Complete Radio 4 Series | Audiobook | AudioGO : audiobooks, CDs, downloads
Thanks to Margaret Thatcher opening up the airwaves, Britain became a world leader in mobile phone technology. And today, 85% of the silicon chips inside all mobiles are designed by just one Cambridge-based company.
There's a lot more, a few facts are here:
The Iron Lady: how Britain changed under Margaret Thatcher | News | guardian.co.uk
Lasting effects are the end of nationalisation, no more unprofitable industries, or non stop strikes, or three day weeks, and huge consumer choice. Things would be a lot better if the last Labour Government hadn't screwed the economy again.
Lasting effects were thousands upon thousands of hardworking people thrown onto the dole. Communities destroyed. The police used as a private army. Recession after recession. The mantra that 'greed is good'.
Other than that I probably will see the film eventually. Can't see my local miners' institute screening it as it has a happy ending, the old bitch is still alive.
Many of those hardworking people were in industries bailed out by the taxpayer. The world had moved on. Regardless of what you think we had to move on with it. At the time over in Japan they were employing mass industrialisation and robots. Here every change was being fought by the unions. Unelected dictators who saw it as their job to fight an elected government.
Greed is good? That's from a Hollywood film.
Unless you wanted to live in a workers paradise like Cuba the country had to move on. The unions resisted it to the end.
Back then I remember Labour MPs realising the world had changed when they walked down a street and saw new front doors. If the house had a new front door it meant the people living there had bought their own house and were now taking pride in it.
Before then the only people on the stock market were those in the city. Suddenly anyone could own shares in their own work if they wanted.
Choice arrived, and competition. Before then you could wait in all day for a phone line to be fitted and chances are no one would turn up anyway. People in nationalised industries could get away with anything. Many were sleeping on the night shift. Competition changed all that. Now if you want a phone line you choose the supplier and they tell you what time they are arriving as well as the day. Usually phoning when they are on the way as well. If they don't they know you can leave if the customer service is bad. Same as anything else.
She set out to smash socialism and she did. The Socialist Labour party is now a dinosaur of the past.
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