I picked up my shiny new copy of GT4 yesterday, and I'm wondering what all that development time was for, is anyone else? The physics are better - but not astonishingly so, the model already pretty good. The graphics are a bit better - but not amazingly so. There are a lot more cars, there are more tracks. It's still a great game and I'll play it till the end (or at least 99.5% like on GT3 - did anyone ever get all gold licences?!) but I don't feel like a kid in a candy shop like I did when I first played GT3. Do we have to wait for GT5 on the PS3 before we see a real improvement? How much will we have to pay to get online play - the only really important thing GT3 is missing! p.s. Sorry for the new thread but I thought the previous bug thread wasn't the right topic.