With the massive interest in newsgroups do you really think we'll need standalone players with rrps anywhere up to 1000 quid?? I really dont see the point in shelling out on a player that will a)become obselete 2)devalue by 500% in a year or two. Im confident our American chums will make true hd films available to the masses and the only bonus a standalone drive has is the fact you wont clog your hard drive up with a 20-30gig file. I just feel like the microsof/sony war leaves us with no option but to source elsewhere. I for one will.