The HD-DVD/Blue-ray charts.

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by BadAss, Jan 1, 2007.

  1. BadAss

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    I came across this piece of soft wear some one had developed over on AVS, which he claims is more accurate than the Amazon DVD wars.

    It displays the data collated from Amazon and combines it to form as a single chart. I did something similar a few weeks ago but this site does it automatically and direct from Amazon every 30 minutes.

    It would be handy, if people agree, to make this chart a sticky.

    Amazon HD-DVD/Blu-ray chart.

    You can choose from either top 10, 25, 50, 100, 250 or All sales rank!

    When you have picked your chosen number scroll down to the bottom of the page to view the result.

    ie, I chose the top 100 which show HD-DVD with 60 titles and average rank of 2,750 Blu-ray 40 titles and average rank of 2,702 :smashin:

    For those interested in the ins and outs of this chart see HERE.
     
  2. jsgreen89

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    Haha gold :D

    So if in the top 10, HD-DVD had 6 titles, with an average of position of 4 say, but BR has a single disc at postion 3. That would make Blu-Ray the winner I guess?

    I love stats :clap:
     
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    At the moment HD-DVD has 7 titles in the top 10 with an average ranking of 527 while Blu-ray has 3 titles and average ranking of 561.
     
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    Personally I would disagree - I think as a forum we place far to much emphasis on the 'Amazon stats' (and I accept I am guilty of this as well). As we have no real way of knowing what sort of real world sales statistics are between a reading of (for example) 500 and 501 then I think it's fairly meaningless. Besides we are getting graphs and statistics in just about every thread now so why do we need a sticky - there are multiple websites that offer the same in much more detail.

    All IMHO of course.
     
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    I'd sticky it if it'd stop you posting more graph threads :p

    I agree with Rasczak - its a shame there isn't proper sales information available - amazon sales ranks are nowhere near relevant to be able to draw any conclusion whatsoever as to the success or otherwise of either format.
     
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    Strange though, most people have been rather happy using the Amazon ranking for the last 4 months or so...now it seems as Blu-ray starts to make an impact, we need "accurate sales" information [we do btw]. How strange:smashin:
     
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    From memory it was BadAss who pioneered the Amazon sales rankings on the forum - a whole variety of his posts exists with some analysis slewed to show BD in the best possible light - so I don't really think your comment holds up that well. Everyone has been saying they are gash since the first post...
     
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    I don't doubt that BadAss was first, but you and plenty of others post them reguarly to make "points" - we argued only the other night when you used the same "data" to demonstrate how expensive Blu-ray discs were. You used the data again today in one of your posts. I think my point holds up very well.
     
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    Of course I've used them (I said that in my first post) - but only because that is the level that BadAss wants to argue on. So no I don't think your point holds up at all :smashin:
     
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    They only show trends and how each format relates to the other but they were used to justify the statments that HD-DVD was massively outselling Blu-Ray.

    These days both formats are neck and neck.
     
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    I am interested how rapidly the data changes - it does swap about quite a bit. No matter which side of the fence you sit, it can be a good thing - seems someone is plenty buying HD content. [relatively speaking]

    How legitimate it is remains a question.
     
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    BadAss starts 2007 off with a bang again.This man is class! Blurry would win if it was down to his devotion! :hiya: :hiya: :hiya: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
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    ...but it wont be...it will be won by hd-dvd on -price and quality. (hd-dvd = cheap price + better quality) (blurry = expensive + worse picture)
     
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    I can tell you that the reality is HD-DVDs launch has been a massive flop in the uk,We sent a lot of stock back to the supplier of hddvd players because we simply couldnt sell them at 500 pounds.
    We have cut down the section in our shop for hddvds,argos, woolworths and whsmiths have all sent stock of films back as well.
    The format hasnt taken of at all, apart from a hardcore audience.
    The fact is hddvd is a trainwreck in the making, mass market is the only way the format will take off and that simply isnt happening.
    95% of people in britain are very happy with a no frills 50 quid dvd player.
    I showed batman begins on hddvd to people and told them its 25 quid they freaked out,then you drop the bomb shell that they need to buy a new dvd player for it and a hdtv and they lose intrest really fast.
    Yes the general public knows nothing about hddvd or bluray or hd they only look at price.
     
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    Very interesting post, it puts things into a little perspective!

    I'm assuming Blu-Rays been equally dissapointing, but as I keep saying, this is a long game, and only Blu-Ray has the industry support to push the format into the mainstream.

    Regardless of the PS3 factor, it's going to be big movies from the likes of Fox and Disney, and CE support from familiar brands, that will give Blu-Ray the credibilty the average consumer requires beofre they to a format.

    That maybe 12 months or 2 years away, could HD-DVD last out that long?
     
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    Trust Badass to find 1 chart where Blu-Ray looks equal. :rotfl: Try the top 250 which includes all the discs.
     
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    and Baldybouncer starts off 2007 with yet another highly thought-out and constructive response.
     
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    Wow so how have dixons, currys, comet etc sold out of there entire stock evertime they get some :)

    It has not crashed and berned as hard as blurry has in the UK if what you say is true which im sure you are sah , badass in disguise :)
     
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    But as you say there will be no clear winner or front runner as such untill 2008 dec.
     
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    I never even knew that WHSmiths, Woolworths and Argos were stocking the HD formats.... I don't remember any reports on here mentioning that they were either?
    (except for Argos stocking the samsung BR player)

    I thought it was only HMV and recently Gamestation that were stocking the new formats in the UK?

    If people on here were not aware that these shops were stocking the new formats it's hardly surprising that they weren't selliing. :D


    BTW. What were the prices, were they any cheaper than HMV?

    :confused:
     
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    Once again Baldy fails to challenge the data but instead attacks the poster.:nono:

    Maybe in 2007, Baldy could present some mature, sensible arguments, but I doubt it very much.

    Baldy it's posters like you that make me want to post more data, charts and graphs, so this one is for you.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Graph time :clap:

    Both formats going into free fall: :eek:

    [​IMG]

    ...obviously with HD DVD staying above :smashin:
     
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    Well for amusement, doesn't that mean everyone is fed up with their HD DVD stuff?

    There is a lot more than that for Blu-ray in any event - there are 73 PS3 for a start.

    But your right, you can do anything with stats
     
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    lol you got to love stats, all them hddvd on ebay, must be selling to part fund Bluray purchases






    /runs...
     
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    I am on ebay everyday as i am selling and buying on there for around 5 hours at a time and of the 300 + daily items for HD DVD on ebay they are mostly brand new sealed films from online stores and dealers that do it for a living they all sell and stock HD and titles fly out daily on ebay but these dealers do not seem to do BLU-RAY anymore but they did a fair while ago when the formats were first about and now all you see is HD DVD being sold and stocked on ebay and not BD why is that?? :confused: ;)
     
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    over 1200 items found for blu-ray on ebay, seems a fair amount of stuff there? no idea what the numbers are like if you take the hdmi leads and all that stuff out though, havent really got time to search for films, apparently i have to work while at work(the bare-faced cheek of it)
     
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    No wonder, £500 is a rip off. It was bad enough paying Toshiba £450 in order to get it in time for Christmas, but if you wern't desperate enough to do that there is no reason to pay even £400.

    The UK discs are also far more expensive than buying from the US, the only UK discs I'll buy is when I can't get it in the US, at least untill the prices are even.

    I paid £12.99 for Batman I think, You'd be a fool to pay £25
     
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    Oh and While I'm on a Badass thread, I belive I won our little bet. A £20 donation to a breast cancer charity would be much appricated please mate.
     

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