I have just been over to Argos and bought one, spur of the moment thing after being on this forum too long. Price is great at £124.99 for a 80gb twin tuner jobbie. Initial impressions are dull to look at (I miss the clock on the video) but I didnt buy it for over complexity. Less to go wrong! The remote is a bit pathetic and badly laid out but i,ll get used to it Library and record functions seem to bring you to the same screen. It will take me a while to find out how to work the various recording capabilities but one touch record is easy and it even tells you the name of the programme in the library when searching for stuff you have saved. It also gives you scene selection (similar to a DVD) so you can jump to the scene you want to watch. No lock up,s as yet but the menu has to update at 3am so I will see if there are any glitches tomorrow after work. Argos warned me there is no refund on this item unless it,s faulty Apparently people have been buying freeview boxes for footy matches on ITV4 etc, watching the match then taking the item back for a refund. That,s their excuse and it,s a bit rubbish I think but I intend keeping it. If pvr,s are prone to glitches anyway, it,s a fair assumption that it will go back for a refund. If anyone has any useful tips on how to navigate the many functions this box has, then please feel free to let me know. I,m a man and I don't read instruction books.